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VOLUME II APRIL MEETING Thursday, Aprjl 1, 1982 7:00 PM Room 225, Smith Hall University of Minnesota

Please note we are back to our regular Thursday meeting day again. The program this month will be presented by Delvin Jones. It will be a IIHerpetological Travelogue Through South Carolina and the Okeefenokee Swamp" This will be a slide show about reptile collecting and will include photography of herps in their natural habitat.:It promises to be really interesting, so plan to attend.

We had a rather disappointing turnout for our Annual Meeting. Only 30 of the membership of MHS was in attendance! Since we are now up to a total membership of 82, we should have done better. The elections were held, and the nominated slate elected The 2 constitutional amendments also passed. We now have a fourth Member-at-Large, and the dues structure is as follows: Individual Member-$7.50. This classification applies to all residents of the state of Minnesotao Corresponding Member-$5.00. This classification applies to all out of state members. Family Membership-$10.00. This classification covers all members of a household These new due structures will become effective when your present membership expires. The fi expirations are in May. Members will be notified when their dues are due. The MHS officers are: Delvin Jones Terry Odegaard Connie Delles Jim Gerholdt Fred Bosman John Dee Bruce Delles Karl Hermann

President Vice-President Secretary-Treasurer Newsletter Editor Member-at-Large Member-at-Large Member- Large Member-at-Large

938-8555 544-6406 938-1679 507-652-2996 476-0306 699-8859 938-1679 225-6784

These officers were all elected to a 1 year term, as dictated by the MHS Constitution These terms will expire in March of 1983.

WANTED- A MINNESOTA HERPETOLOGICAL SOCIETY. This was the title of a pres entation by MHS ident Delvin Jones at the symposium "Ecology of Reptiles and Amphibian in Minne in March of 1981. This symposium was held at the Bald Eagle Outdoor Learning Center Cass Lake, Minnesota, near Bemidji. This is what got ball roll ng to get what was to become MHS off the ground. Del also lined up a source of frozen food animals for the MHS Deli, which is primarily why our treasury is in the shape it is. Good! MHS extends a special salute to Del for his efforts on our behalf!

The IIFavori Cri of the Monthll for the March meeting turned out super with a lot of participation. I failed to point out in the last Newsletter that this was intended to be the program~ rather than a guest speaker. I apologize for any confusion caused by this, and accept your hisses. The "Critters and their owners were: ll

Matt Cutler-Eastern Garter Snakes Todd Danielson-Common Boa Constrictor John Dee-Du Hognose Snake Bruce Dell ifornia Kingsnakes (albino and aberrant phase) Connie Delles-Yellow Rat Snakes Sue Edholm-Plains Hognose Snakes Fran Frisch-Sinaloan Milk Snakes Gabe Gerholdt-Western Fox Snake Jim Gerholdt-Coast Mountain Kingsnake Matt Gerholdt-California Kingsnake (banded phase) Pam Gerholdt-Pink Tongued Skink Del Jones-Yellow Rat Snake Jim Russell-Mediterranean Gecko and Parachute Gecko Mike Schwartz-Common Tegu Lizard Of particular interest were the Pink Tongued Skink, the albino and aberrant phase California Kings, and the HUGE Yellow Rat. The Pink Tongued Skink is a native of Australia and belongs to the same genus as the larger Blue Tongue. Maximum snout~vent is about 8" and it is live bearing Snails are a primary food in the wild, but this specimen has been converted to pinks It was an adult when acquired and is an 11 year capt~ve"

The albino C ifornia Kings are a sexual pair and are being raised with an eye to future breeding As seems to be typical with albinos of this species, the general appearance is IIfoggy" with the dark bands taking on a bluish color. The aberrant phase is banded and striped but seems to be more striped than the usual aberrant California King. The HUGE Yellow Rat ~easures 81 the aosolute maximum as 84


and is really impressive. Conant gives


In summary, all of the animals brought to the meeting were impressive. This kind of member participation is really great. Thanks to all from MHS! Refreshments at the kins and Ann Porwoll

meeting were supplied by Pam Gerholdt, Lynn JenWe have also figured out the new coffee pot!


Once again the MHS Newsletter is graced by more custom cartoons by Fran Frisch. Thanks from MHS.

The "Critter of the Month for the April meeting will be small to medium sized lizards. Sometime during the warm months we will have large to huge typeso ll

The question was raised by one of the members at the March meeting as to what the Board of Directors does and decides at the monthly board meetings. What we do is to spend a lot of time trying our best to direct MHS and make it a successful viable organization that we can all be proud of. Some of the decisions made at past board meetings include okaying book purchases for the Library (so far this includes the entire Handbook series and Reptiles and Amphibians of Australia), authorization--of travel expenses for board members_engaged in Society business, token speaker fees to guest speakers, and travel expenses for speakers where deemed necessary. At the March board meeting it was decided to buy the new "Natural History of Amphibians and Reptiles in Wisconsin ll by Richard C. Vogt. This is a recent issue and is highly reccommended. We also spent a lot of time formulating an official MHS letter to our legislators regarding-the Endangered Species Act and related matters. This meeting was continued the next night, and again later in the week. In future Newsletters I will keep the membership posted as to Board activities.

We are also in the initial planning stages of a spring picnic. If anyone has thoughts on this, please let us know. Any volunteers? We are also seeking input as to an alternate meeting place or_parki~g ideas. Let us know how you feel about Smith Hall, and if you have had parking problems.

At the April meeting we will begin a new meeting feature "Herp Hintsll. This will consist of a question and answer period relating to any medical or husbandry problems you might be having, followed by short summaries of any recent treatments anyone may have to contribute Don't be bashful on this one, as we all stand to gain from it.

The MHS Library is

ill growing! We have just received this donation:

Gary Wilson Baecher Taxonom c Keys to the Common Animals of the North Central United St by Samuel Eddy and A. C. Hodson Thanks from MHS!

The Minnesota DNR reports that a study is about to begin on the FiveLined Skink population near Redwood Falls. We should have more on this

at a later date. DNR also reports that a slide/tape on Minnesota1s frogs and toads should be ready this month (April). We will try and get this for a future meeting. Can spring be far away?

MHS is pleased to announce that we have been accepted as a referral agency for hapless herps that need a happy home. The Minnesota Zoological Garden has agreed to refer herp owners to us when they are offerred animals that they cannot accept for the zoo. What this ~eans is that from time to time we will have herps available for adoption by the membershipw This will be at meetings ~lY! The MHS Board_of Directors bas established the following criteria for-aaoption The individual must have: 1. successfully bred the species@

2. is presently maintaining a mate of the species in question. 3. demonstrated successful husbandry of an allied speCles. 4. presently or will provide proper facilities and a source of food prior to placement of the animal.

The applicants will be screened by the Board of Directors against the above criteria. The most qualified party will be given preference in the placement of the animalo In no case will an animal be placed with anyone who has not shown co~pliance with item 4.Again, animals will only be placed at the regular monthly meetings.


Part II

The recent reptile 路stingl operation undertaken by the UoS. Fish and Wildlife Service has brought the problems of wildlife protection laws into sharp focus The abuse of civil rights which occurred cannot and should not be tolerated. Heretofore elusive effects of wildlife laws have now emerged as very real and direct threats~ not only to rare animals but to the people who work with them as well. These laws discourage, rather than promote, activities such as captive propagation that are beneficial to wildlife. Thus, we are being forced either to take action against the very department created to protect wildlife, or face systematic elimination of captive breeding research, and our attendant civil rights To solve this dilemma new legislation needs to be introduced; legislation which will encourage and assist activities beneficial to wildlife. Action towards this end can be on an individual and grou~ level. Ind The Istingl operation should be used to capture public attention. It is necessary to expose the violations of our civil rights and the harassment, coercion, and threats made by federal personnel. The fact that defendants are being forced to prove their innocence is something that threatens the constitutional fabric of this country. Concerned individuals must voice their opinions to their representatives! Some of us have already done this and the results are encouraging. Fish and Wildlife actions are being questioned in many areas. Demands for explanations have been issued by Senators and Congressmen. The ~ore people who express themselves the more pressure will be brought to bear. Of especial value will be the testimomy of those directly involved in the 路stingl, as they can document unethical and illegal methods used. Too many persons are not making themselves heard for fear of further harassments: precisely what Fish and Wildlife is aiming for! No changes will be made by sticking our heads in the sand. Unless we speak up now it will be nearly impossible to continue captive breeding and the future of wildlife research will be jeopardized. The abuse of our civil rights could set a precedent which will threaten other areas of scientific inquiry. Opinions need to be expressed to those who can make changes - our Senators, Congressmen, and the media. Group Action: There are four areas the various zoological societies across the country should address. I. A committee is needed to draw up proposed amendments to the laws we are concerned with. These are the Endangered Species Act, the Lacey Act, the Migratory Bird Treaty, and the Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species of Wild Fauna and Flora (CITES)~ These amendments should stipulate that there be no restrictions on the sale trade, transport importation, exportation, or possession of any captive born wildlife. Protected animals now in captivity should be granted a general amnesty. This is necessary because proof of legal origin is often impossible for animals acquired prior to their protection, as well as animals collected in areas where they are


not protected A general amnesty would remove the necessity of proving legal origins for animals already in captivity. It would stimulate persons with animals of undetermined origin to bring the animals into breeding situations. An attitude of encouraging and assisting captive breeding and other activities beneficial to wildlife should be an underlying basis of wildlife laws. They should not just be a negative set of restrictions and prohibitions. They should take an actively positive approach by promoting captive breeding, as well as animal product farms that benefit wildlife by providing legal sources for animal products. The November 1982 re-authorization of the Endangered Species Act is an ideal time to introduce an amendment. A means of changing the other laws should be formed. This effort will require a legal team, and it may be desirable to work in cooperation with a national wildlife organization. The need for these amendments must be brought to the attention of our legislators. Individuals and wildlife organizations need to express their concern for making these changes to their representatives. II. Zoological societies should issue demands for action to their representatives. The opinion of a society representing many people carries weight in political consoderations. Zoological societies should use this power to the best advantage. III. Individuals and zoological societies should approach other wildlife organizations. Groups such as the Audubon Society, the National Wildlife Federation, and Defenders of Wildlife cannot help but be concerned with the destruction of research and wildlife that has occurred, as well as the problems of captive propagation. The situation we are facing should be brought to the attention of these groups.

Traditionally, most wildlife organizations have supported restrictions on live trade. These laws have been portrayed as essential for wildlife protection. However, we can prove that many of these laws pose a threat to captive wildlife. Regulations.that apply to captive wildlife are compelling zoos, researchers, and private individuals not to breed rare and endangered animals in their collections. Further, the attitudes and enforcement activities of the Fish and Wildlife Service have created an unprecedented paranoia among zoological personnel throughout the United States! The inability to obtain permits to move offspring or acquire mates for lone animals can be documented, as well as unreasonably long waiting periods for permits. Laws should have a positive approach to conservation by encouraging and assisting the captive propagation of endangered species. Instead, they consist of a negative set of restrictions and prohibitions that discourage the breeding of rare animals. IV. Foreign zoos and wildlife concerns should also be approached. They can put pressure on the United States to allow free trade in captive wildlife for breeding purposes. Many zoos have been frustrated by an inability to obtain mates for rare animals from overseas. This frustration works both ways. SUMMARY This proposal illustrates the problems of current wildlife laws. The restrictions which make captive breeding of rare and endangered species nearly impossible are discussed The recent reptile 'sting' undertaken by the



Fish and Wildlife Service exemplifies this dilemma. Laws now in effect are basically a set of restrictions and prohibitions. These laws discourage, rather than promote, activities such as captive breeding which are beneficial to wildlife. Wildlife agencies should promote, aid, and cooperate with public aod private efforts to propagate rare species. Encouragement should be given to animal product farms, which relieve pressure on wild populations by providing a legal source for superior quality products. Rewriting laws to achieve this would have many benefits for wildlife. A plan of action for implementing this ideal is outlined.

Action Procedure: I. Amendments to the Endangered Species Act, the Lacey Act, the ~jgratory Bird Treaty, and the Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species of Wild Fauna and Flora (CITES) should be proposed. These a~endments should include: A) No restrictions on the sale, trade, transport, importation, exportation, or possession of any captive born wildlife. B) A general amnesty for animals already in captivity. C) Intelligent regulation of animal products to encourage commercial farming operations D) Provisions to encourage and assist captive and semi-captive breeding programs, both public and private. II. Concerned individuals should express their opinions to their represenatives. III. Zoological societies should issue demands for action to their representatives. IV. The problems with current wildlife laws should be brought to the attention of national wildlife organizations and foreign concerns. These groups should be requested to express their concerns to our legislators and to aid in revising the laws. V. Our legislators should be convinced of the need to change wildlife laws. Zoological societies, wildlife groups~ and concerned individuals should work with ,our legislators to intriduce amendments to the laws. Benefits of Imelementation: The proposed amendments to wildlife laws would have many benefits. They would: 1. virtually eljminate illegal trade in protected species, by providing legal sources for superior quality animals. 2. provide captive reservoirs of animals for re-introduction to natural habitat or protected areas. 3. encourage breeding of rare and endangered wildlife through economic incentives. 49 ensure species survival in the event of a natural disaster.


5. assist the bringing together of sexual pairs of endangered animals now in widely scattered collections. 6. facilitate biological studies and the tracing of gene lines. 7. reduce pressure on wild populations by encouraging the establishment of commercial farming operations. Wildlife would receive many benefits from the implementation of this proposal. The author invites any and all suggestions or criticisms and encourages readers to contact their local zoological societies and representatives. Hopefully, this action will secure a future for rare and endangered wildlife. submitted by, Gary Casper 3403 S. 16th Street Milwaukee, WI 53215 January 23, 1982 Note: This report was prepared as an alternative to the proposal for "Private Registration of Reptiles and Amphibians ll published in Notes From Noah, Vol. IX, no. 2. NOVe 25, 1981 - the newsletter of the Northern Ohio Association of Herpetologists.


By Joseph T. Collins

Second (Revised) Edition

To be issued in early spring 1982, this softbound volume is a thorough update of the 1974 edition, with new sections on alien species, introductions to the main groups, endangered species, an extensive and fully illustrated technical key. arid an updated bibliography to the Kansas herpetofauna. In addition, the range maps have been enhanced by the addi tion of over 525 new county records obtained since 1974, and most of the 150 black and white photographs are new. ·0







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BREEDING NOTES Breedings from February AAZPA Newsletter Memphis Zoo and Aquarium 1 Gold Dust Gecko

New York Zoological Park 2 Travancore Tortoise 43 Common Anaconda

National Zoo 3 Giant Day Gecko Breedings from March AAZPA Newsletter Houston Zoological Gardens 2 Tokay Gecko National Zoological Park 2 Oriental Fire-Bellied Toad 1 Yarrow's Spiny Lizard Kansas City Zoo 4 Tokay Gecko

Tulsa Zoological Park 5 Red Footed Tortoise Los Angeles Zoo 2 Leopard Gecko 4 Blue Tongued Skink 1 Mangrove Snake 9 Leopard Tortoise 12 Aruba Island Rattlesnake

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