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INDEX

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1. EVAN SMITH INTERVIEW

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2. GET ON THE VAN

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3. TIM GAVIN: FROM FAT ASS TO BAD ASS

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4. HISTORY OF THE THRASHER BOYFRIEND SHIRT

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Evan Smith Interview Four-billion years ago, errant meteorites slammed into the lifeless lump of stone that is planet Earth, sprinkling their cosmic crud like so much dandruff and sparking what would eventually become Orlando, Florida (and the rest of life as we know it), though all of that took a hell of a lot of time. It was there that a young Evan Smith picked up a skateboard toy, his instant mastery of which leads us to believe that he’d somehow absorbed a little more than his fair share of that original space gunk. Or maybe it was just concentrated in the Orlando city drinking water. Florida’s notoriously sloppy with issues of infrastructure like that. Either way, dude is out of this world. Or more specifically, he’s got a little extra-terrestrial-ity about him. He’s like us, but with a touch of something special—something weird and wonderful. Endlessly curious, freakishly good at whatever he tries, possessing relentless PMA—looks like a goddamned ET too, come to think of it. Star. Head. Body. Evan Smith, folks, live from outer space!

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What are you doing right now? I’m in Pittsburgh and I just got done unpacking and now I’m repacking. Where’d you go? Where are you going next? This year has been fucking mental. I’ve been all over the globe, which is such an awesome experience. We went to Barcelona for a month, we went to Australia, went to South America multiple times, just went to Brazil with DC. The reason why we’ve been traveling so much is because Element is making a video and I’m trying to put out a Thrasher part in January. With the combination of those two things, I’ve been going nonstop. Dude, that’s crazy. So I just unpacked and then I’m going to repack and I’m going to leave on the fourth to Minneapolis and Australia, then come back for the holidays and then I’m gonna go to Costa Rica and then in January I’m throwing a party in LA. What kind of party? What’s the occasion? I’m releasing a shoe, so I’m gonna try to throw a party for it for all my friends. Because it’s cool that I’m getting a shoe and all, but I wanna give something back to all my buddies so they can have a place and a time to enjoy it together and hopefully use it as an opportunity to bring people like you and Cole and Dave Hoang and all my closest friends in the industry together to celebrate our existence!

“I WANNA GIVE SOMETHING BACK TO ALL MY BUDDIES SO THEY CAN HAVE A PLACE AND A TIME TO ENJOY” Is the party gonna have any special theme or twist to it? No, I’m hoping there’ll be some rock ‘n’ roll bands so that people can mosh around. I’m hoping there will be an open bar of some sort so everyone can drink. What goes through your head when thinking about your own shoe? I’m just stoked that I have a shoe. Having the opportunity to sell something that you like with your name on it is humongous, you know what I mean? Obviously with DC’s technical support and my idea for sort of a classic hightop mixed with a boat shoe type of thing, we’ve combined some really cool technology with some really relaxed features. Those were the things that were going through my head, like, “How can I like make a comfy shoe that lasts a long time that skates great?” You know what I mean? It’s, like, I want kids to be stoked on skating, regardless. If I can add to that in any way this is an opportunity for me. I was all, “Yeah, let’s make a shoe!” I already had a hundred ideas ready to go. Let’s just say I had a couple ideas because my brain works way too quick when it comes to creating. So I’m lucky. That’s how I feel at this moment. That’s how I feel at this exact moment—I feel extremely lucky to be able to contribute to our skateboarding industry. And you wrote and directed a commercial for this shoe? Tell me about that. Actually, me and Cole Matthews wrote the commercial idea together and we conformed it to make it work with actual visual arts and stuff. We got to do some post-production on it which is—it gets really pricey when you get into post-production. But I actually had the opportunity to direct it firsthand. So usually Chris Ray and the light dudes are, like, “Alright, we need you to do this.” So me and this guy Devon directed it. But they were definitely giving me full creative control at that moment so it was a beautiful thing. They asked me, “So what should we do?” And I was, like, “Oh my God, everyone wants to listen to me. This is crazy!” So I was, like, “Alright, let’s do this,” and I nailed it out. We had an awesome weekend of shooting at Pacific Drive— that’s where the commercial was filmed, in San Diego. I’m really excited to see the finished product. 4


It’s being edited at the moment and I haven’t seen even one little bit of it, but I know just from the pure fact of our storyboard that the commercial is pretty funny and it builds a little bit of character, kind of going for the vibe of the original DC video. You know how there’s a little bit of cameos in it of Big Black and AVE, there’s a little bit of personality building? I’d like to go into that in the future with marketing at DC. It was a really, really cool vibe and I really like the aspect of what these dudes are offering skateboarding at that moment. And it’s really cool to see cameos when you’re a little kid. I don’t know, when you’re a little kid you see skating all the time but getting some personality from these people is a really special thing and I don’t want that to be lost. So that was kind of my goal with the commercial aside from a really cool storyline. I don’t want to give up the story. I’d like for you to see it and be, like, “Oh, that’s cool,” or “I don’t like it.” That’s fine with me, too. I understand that you had a little bit of a crisis of conscience thinking about all the leather that was going to be used for you shoe. What were you tripping on? Yeah, this is a great fucking question. Actually, originally I declined using Super Suede completely on my shoe just due to the fact that animal hides are being used and because of the leather trade. They manufacture out of China, but the treated leather comes from Southeast Asia or India. So I was over it. I didn’t want the idea of hide on my shoe even though it’s the best and it lasts longest. It freaked me out completely. And then, through all the ups and downs as far as durability testing, I couldn’t find anything else that would work. And I’m still searching right now. So if I do revise the model at all in the future, I’m gonna continue to research with the goal of making it completely suede free. But I ended up, unfortunately, using bits of suede for the toe and we came up with this rubber-backed canvas, which is my secondary material, so any spot that doesn’t have to be suede for durability, we can use the canvas and it’s rubber backed so it’s not just gonna rip right away. It lasts at least four times as long as canvas normally lasts. You know canvas, how easy it is to rip. So with that trade off and all that stuff it’s, like, really, really hard. I don’t want to support the slaughtering of any animal for anything that has to do with anything like that. I’m not interested in being one to benefit off the slaughtering of animals. I think it’s complete bullshit and garbage. I mean, I’m pretty bummed on myself for even using suede in the first place. I am. I’m actually bummed on myself and everyone who’s reading this should be super bummed on me for using suede. And you should put that in the fuckin’ interview.

“I’M NOT IN INTERESTED IN BEING ONE TO BENEFIT OFF THE SLAUGHTERING OF ANIMALS” How would it feel to see Danny Way in a pair of your shoes? Dude, I would be stoked. I would love to see him fuckin’ triple flip indy 900 over the mini gap and then into a double flip front blunt on a soccer goal to take out Bob Burnquist in the new Evan Smiths. I would be so stoked. Okay, so you directed this commercial which we can’t wait to see. I understand you’re also working on a movie? Yeah, it’s kind of on the back burner. I have an idea. I’m really interested in photography and I’m really into making anything, pretty much. I worked on a project with my buddy Chris Blake, which is like a cross-country doc/mockumentary type of thing of just visual art, in a way. And that got me super sparked on the idea to have something filmed someday. So I started writing a storyline and stuff and maybe in the next five-to-ten years maybe I can accomplish a movie or something. I might need to hit up Ty Evans or Spike Jonze so I can get some C4. What’s that? C4, like the explosive. 5


Okay, wow. But you’ve got this Thrasher part coming out and then don’t you have a cross-country road trip video that you made with your buddies this year, too? Yeah, but that’s not a movie. I’m talking about a real movie. I want to make, like, a legit movie someday because I think it’s fun. I want to see people acting and I want to produce them and I want to light them and film them and write the story. That sounds great—right up my alley. What are your favorite movies right now? Do you have a favorite movie of all time? Pulp Fiction is fucking awesome and Dazed and Confused. Those two movies are two of my all-time favorites. Yeah, those are good. I love Linklater, too. So let me ask you this, has your relationship with Nyjah changed a little bit over the years? I heard maybe you’ve gone soft with him. Ah, dude, I haven’t gone soft with him. Who fuckin’ told you that? That’s just some shit I heard. No. Okay, I like him. Do you still give him guff like an older brother? Oh, fuck yeah, dude, I love giving him shit. It’s been the best thing ever getting in Street League because now I have the opportunity to actually fuck with him multiple times a year, which is so fuckin’ sick! And with him switching to Nike I lost a couple trips with him, you know? So now that I’ve got him in the League I’m gonna cut his little Achilles tendon and take his money! No, I’m just kidding. You don’t seem like a very competitive person. How are you doing in the League? It’s a really interesting dynamic being involved in Street League. It’s a little bit outside of where I ever saw myself going with skateboarding. But I feel like, with that being said, maybe I could give those 2,000 people that go to each event—not the people that are watching on TV, not all that TV stuff, I’m just talking about the actual 2,000 6


“IF I HAVE TO GET TAKEN OUT BY AN AMBULANCE THEN BE IT” They lifted the ban on air time over there? Exactly. They’re expanding their skateboarding to involve more air time, which is amazing. And that’s exactly what I like about watching skateboarding. When I watch videos of Neil Blender he’d go longer and farther and it’s shit where you’re thinking, “Wow, I knew he could do that trick, but, dude, he did it 20 feet longer than I could have ever imagined somebody doing it!” Uh, there’s a shooting in San Bernardino, California, up to 20 victims reported according to fire department. The world is crazy and we’re just thinking about skating. What’s going on? It’s nuts. So do you think that you’ve ever gotten in Nyjah’s head at the contest? No, those dudes know that when the time comes, even if I get into the finals or something, I haven’t really put anything together ever in my life. So I would doubt that those dudes could be scared of me doing well. Like, I’m not interested. I’m just interested in skating as hard as possible. Like, whatever comes, that’s sick. If I have a good day of skating, that’s rad, I’ll take your fuckin’ money, Nyjah. But at the same time, that’s not what I’m interested in. I’m interested in hanging out with a bunch of rad people behind the scenes. What most people don’t know about Street League is that there’s a bunch of sick-ass cunts working all over that place. You know, there are a bunch of cool people that are our friends—your friends and my friends, you know? So do you still owe Nyjah eight grand for his hotel room you wrecked? No, Monster paid for it. Thank God for Monster. What happened? You soiled his towels? Alright, so this was a long time ago. What happened was we were outside of a Victoria’s Secret trade show party of some sort. It was like a model party or some shit; some big deal. We’re sitting across the street, me and my buddies. It was me, Ethan Loy, Nick Garcia, Greyson and we’re kind of backed up against the wall. We’re kind of just sitting there watching people walk into this party and every time the door would open we’d see all of these babes and be, like, “Oh my God! How are we going to get in this? This is fucking insane.” And then Nyjah came over with this girl. I think it was one of his friends at the time. They were at the door. And then he left her to go into the party ‘cause she couldn’t get in. And I was all, “What in the hell? How could he ever do that?” Maybe we misunderstood the situation. Maybe she just had to go home or something like that, but we were, like, “Fuck this!” Ethan had Nyjah’s hotel-room key and I was, like, “Dude, if we can’t get into this party, let’s at least go have a bottle from Nyjah’s mini bar!” This was my idea. So we go to the fucking hotel and I started going to the mini bar. We drink one of the bottles, then we drank another bottle. We drink another bottle and then we drank everything in the mini bar. By the end of it we’re lit and we’re amped! Did you apologize? Yeah. Well, the only thing I apologized for is breaking his board. I don’t mind dealing with the cost of breaking a hotel room and all that. I just knew he wanted to keep that board and I broke it, so I apologized to him for that. I would never do something like that to him again. I expect him to destroy my life someday and that’s fine. I’m fuckin’ ready. I’m ready for him to come to Pittsburgh and try to fuck with my home. We’ll see what happens. How good are you at starting fire the old fashioned way? You’re super into that stuff, right? Oh, you think I’m good at starting fire?

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Quite often, you see vehicles with stickers on the back showing caricatures of the proud family inside. Why should only smiling families get to have all the fun? No matter which squad of creeps you roll with, everyone should get to broadcast to the world that they’re rollin’ deep. Here’s sticker ideas for various sets of skate crews that are known to pile into a car now and then. As seen in the October 2014 mag.

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OLD MAN BRIGADE: These guys are tired and injured before they go skating. They now focus on the transition arts and simply do not regard ledges, handrails, or stairs as a “spot.� Amid their aches and pains the skate fire still burns bright.

CLOWN CAR: Nothing wrong with having interests outside of skating, but this goof-troop flaunts their nonskate hobbies with a perpetual and obnoxious flare.

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SKATE RATS: These rodents have a car full of garbage, a bunch of spots in mind and zero tolerance for whining. Slayer is cranked too loud for conversation anyway.

PRIMP POSSE: Skating is not immune to social-media monsters and these dudes know that, at any given moment, a strategic selfie awaits.

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MODERN PROBLEMS: Here’s a bored Team Manager baby-sitting a squad of gadget zombies, including the dude always scheming to meet girls in the next town.

BURN UNIT: This car is cloudy with a chance of bong-water stains. Edibles abound in this vehicle, watch what you eat! Endless talk about the different kinds of weed is a living hell for the one guy who quit years ago.

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He helped invent modern street skating and built a footwear empire before being tragically sidelined by bloomin' onions and Coors party balls. Read The Gav's heroic tale of redemption here. —Michael Burnett

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What was the best part of being a fat ass? With no question, eating like a Little Leaguer. I enjoy food that my children eat. My food of choice is a microwavable pot pie. Lately what I would do was order, from a taxi service, bottles of wine to my house. So instead of calling a cab to take me to go purchase food and beverages, I’d just have them go shopping for me. Two bottles of pinot grigio to wash down a Swanson turkey or chicken pot pie. Microwave two minutes and then pop it in the toaster oven to get a nice cripsy edge. Four of those, two bottles of pinot, go to bed and wake up to nice pretzel with cheese. Nacho cheese is critical to a man’s diet. It’s critical to have an ample supply around the house if you want that bloated look. It’s been mentioned before that you seemed to carry the bulk of your weight in your face. Why was that? Yeah. Definitely. I think alcohol has a tendency to bloat you and I think most of the food I was eating was high in sodium so that helped with the bloat. My face and head are naturally built like a beach ball. So I guess with the high-sodium diet it was like putting more and more air in a balloon. What was the breaking point that got you off the fat ass program? I quit drinking. So as soon as I quit drinking the attraction to those comfort foods went away. Seriously, when I would golf or be out in the sun and see my fat shadow I’d think, “Seriously, this has to stop.” I literally couldn’t look at myself anymore like that. I had to stop.

Were you worried that you couldn’t be “The Gav” without a beer in your hand? Absolutely. I don’t want to get too heavy, but it’s fun to have a beer with the guys but when the other guys would leave and go home and have a normal life I would keep it going for five days. That led to nachos, pizza boats, chicken tenders, bloomin’ onions. But when you start taking care of yourself you don’t want to do that stuff. You start to get your self esteem back. When you look good and you’re not all hungover you build up some confidence and you don’t have to drink. I barely recognized you you’re so goddamned buff. What’s your program? I completely changed the way I’m eating. Lots of protein, salads. I’ve lost 40 pounds in four months. No soda, cheese, no white carbs. Then I exercise three or four times a week. That’s it. How are your kickflips now? I’m going to start skating again. I feel light again, man. I was basically carrying four gallons of milk around on me. I’m inspired to go skateboarding. We’ll see if the balance is there. What has been people’s reaction to your radical transformation? I went to Girl for the first time since losing the weight and Rick walked right past me. He turned back and I looked him in the eyes and he gave me that full grin; that full skeletal Canadian look, eyes wide. Rick Howard didn’t recognize me. I’ve know the dude for 30 years and he walked right past me! He was probably thinking, “Wow. That looks like the guy I kicked off 15 years ago.” So what are you working on now? Knox hardware. Daewon, Vincent Alvarez and Chris Cole are on the team. It’s a hardware company with a printables collection. And we’re doing skateboard pillows—full graphics on a skateboard-shaped pillow. 13


How are your kickflips now? I’m going to start skating again. I feel light again, man. I was basically carrying four gallons of milk around on me. I’m inspired to go skateboarding. We’ll see if the balance is there. What has been people’s reaction to your radical transformation? I went to Girl for the first time since losing the weight and Rick walked right past me. He turned back and I looked him in the eyes and he gave me that full grin; that full skeletal Canadian look, eyes wide. Rick Howard didn’t recognize me. I’ve know the dude for 30 years and he walked right past me! He was probably thinking, “Wow. That looks like the guy I kicked off 15 years ago.” So what are you working on now? Knox hardware. Daewon, Vincent Alvarez and Chris Cole are on the team. It’s a hardware company with a printables collection. And we’re doing skateboard pillows—full graphics on a skateboard-shaped pillow. We’re doing that with Chris Cole, Daewon, Guy, Christian Hosoi and Sean Malto. It’s something different that nobody is doing. Who wouldn’t be psyched to have a Hosoi pillow on their bed? Tim Gavin starred in 1992’s "Tim and Henry’s Pack of Lies" before becoming one of the founding members of the Girl Skateboard team. He later helped start DVS and Matix while simultaneously becoming a total fat ass. I barely recognized you you’re so goddamned buff. What’s your program? I completely changed the way I’m eating. Lots of protein, salads. I’ve lost 40 pounds in four months. No soda, cheese, no white carbs. Then I exercise three or four times a week. That’s it.

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History of the Thrasher "Boyfriend" Shirt: Start off with a young woman drawn in a 1950’s comic-art style. Take note of her sorrow and serious bangs. Then throw in a mysterious and kind of bug-eyed dude rocking a white tie in the background. Top it off with a tweaked line of soap-opera dialogue, and what happens? You get Thrasher’s longest-running T-shirt design (not counting the mag logo itself, dummy). Clocking in at 24 years and running, the Boyfriend shirt’s longevity is a twisted mystery, even to us. And we're not talking periodic "Limited Edition" re-prints every few years. It's a shirt that's been available in every mag, non-stop, for the past 297 issues. Does this forlorn female counterbalance the hell-spawn Skategoat through some cosmic Yin-Yang action? No one knows for sure. Jeff Klindt came up with the design and it’s one small part of his considerable skate legacy, which includes riding for H-Street, working extensively with Thrasher and DLX, and being a musician in Wonderful Broken Thing and Joaquina. Jeff passed away in 2004, so many details of the shirt’s creation are lost in time. Whether it was inspired by pre-existing comic art or not, Jeff never could have guessed that this snapshot of emotions and haircuts would still be charging forward. So, straighten your white tie and console any nearby sniffling Betty as we salute this bizarro design which took on a life all its own. —Adam Creagan What was the best part of being a fat ass? With no question, eating like a Little Leaguer. I enjoy food that my children eat. My food of choice is a microwavable pot pie. Lately what I would do was order, from a taxi service, bottles of wine to my house. So instead of calling a cab to take me to go purchase food and beverages, I’d just have them go shopping for me. Two bottles of pinot grigio to wash down a Swanson turkey or chicken pot pie. Microwave two minutes and then pop it in the toaster oven to get a nice cripsy edge. Four of those, two bottles of pinot, go to bed and wake up to nice pretzel with cheese. Nacho cheese is critical to a man’s diet. It’s critical to have an ample supply around the house if you want that bloated look.

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What was the best part of being a fat ass? With no question, eating like a Little Leaguer. I enjoy food that my children eat. My food of choice is a microwavable pot pie. Lately what I would do was order, from a taxi service, bottles of wine to my house. So instead of calling a cab to take me to go purchase food and beverages, I’d just have them go shopping for me. Two bottles of pinot grigio to wash down a Swanson turkey or chicken pot pie. Microwave two minutes and then pop it in the toaster oven to get a nice cripsy edge. Four of those, two bottles of pinot, go to bed and wake up to nice pretzel with cheese. Nacho cheese is critical to a man’s diet. It’s critical to have an ample supply around the house if you want that bloated look. It’s been mentioned before that you seemed to carry the bulk of your weight in your face. Why was that? Yeah. Definitely. I think alcohol has a tendency to bloat you and I think most of the food I was eating was high in sodium so that helped with the bloat. My face and head are naturally built like a beach ball. So I guess with the high-sodium diet it was like putting more and more air in a balloon. What was the breaking point that got you off the fat ass program? I quit drinking. So as soon as I quit drinking the attraction to those comfort foods went away. Seriously, when I would golf or be out in the sun and see my fat shadow I’d think, “Seriously, this has to stop.” I literally couldn’t look at myself anymore like that. I had to stop.

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