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wh!cn can cause senous stress to them and to their personal life. That is my anxiety. I may be wrong, but I put it forward with some care, having thought ! about it and studiep it a good i Therefore, my third a.nxiety-and I am sorry to be negative bm it is important to ! share both the light and the dark sides .-is the dallgt~r of the religious aspect of the UFO situation lea.ding to the obscuring I of basic Christi.an truths. When al is said and done, Christ himself is the agen.t i of God in the creation of the world. I quote from Colossians: i

Tregfarnc, for his !ntcrjedion because it have been listenin<}’ shows that he must "’ .C’ .p!’ i"I’ h" ,"-,,~ i (,<I.I’;’iU L J,,<o on Iny .US" 1...1vf" nex. "!1’,,0’ y, "Say something about Lord notes Trefgarr;es rcrl1arks ", However, there are about 20 seconds to go before I get to the noble Lord, Perhaps in the meantime he can have a glass-of water from Lord Davies of Leek, or something, but 1 am almost "vith the noble Lord. 1 am glad for that interjection because I obviously was not ;etting right what I \vas tryiuf.’; to saY r belie.ve~that aU the far corners of creative world, right out further than the. the, the of inv!si~le the Gpd,. I <;hrist . "" ever see or even kll0’\V by ra.dio5 are can \ve for H1 ’1th!ngi) Cl~nst creatl<)f1: !JXst..OOrIl 01~ ~!.H I created In. he~iven and on eartn) V!SltjjJ~ and within the plan of the Creator. I belicw thrones or d0r.cin~ons. or ,II they are within the majestic purposes of principalities or authoritie~ .. ~.. H. H ngs’vlcre i God. I believe Christ, as Creator create,;j throug11 ,Fi r.i. a..nd for the Godhead,is concerned with it under This fa&cimlting c:hapter in Colossians, II aIL \vhic.h is perha.ps one of the. highest levels of sDcaks Now may I come to the noble Lord’s of Christo!o!!ica1 ’p i particular question a few minutes ago, him : aH before by Christ being i question Vient. SOrTlcthing like this: all tbinD’s consist". as the A uthorised " AH’things ~put together; hold we beJ eve in the existence of another Do it. Version He is the great unifying, holding-together i race? Is it possible that there is another race further afield?" must sav that I do principle of God’s universe. not know. I believe there is place for" I say this in this debate recognising the reverent Christan agnosticism concerning danger of, as it were, preaching a sermon. what is not revealed to us in scripture and However, J do not think that is true in this by our Lord. I-laving said that, I believe case bf~cause the very subject Vie arc I that God may have other plans for other debating is helping to widen our horizons worlds, but 1 believe that God’s plan for --and the nobJe Viscount, Lord Oxfuird, this v.;orld is Jesus. That at !east is how I stressed this point of looking far out in view the question. The emphasis in his maiden speech. r believe that Christ scripture is most: interesting on the has not only a terrestial, not only a cosmic i that there never seems a p01l1t beyona significance but literally a galactic signi- I the reve1ation of scripture ’shere there is f ance. I believe that He is God’s vice.. not God. regent concerning His great creative I quote, if I may foHow Lord Trefgarne world. It is good that our minds and eyes should be stretched further out once more before finishing what I had to b-ecause I do not believe that at any point say, from the most majectic opening letter of the universe we get beyond the hand I to the Hebrews. " In these Sl days, God has spoken to us by of God. Therefore, it helps us to underheir of all stand the maiesty of the Godhead when I his Son. whom he bath Rppointed wor1ds. He~ wbom also he made the we begin to st-retch our minds to reach out 1 things, by God. FIe bears the stamp 01 of the glory reflects creation. of iI his nature, upholding the universe by his word to the far corners

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There are commonly held misconceptions regarding the MOD’s role and responsibilities with respect to unexplained aerial phenomena. We have a very limited interest our only concern is to establish whether there is any evidence of a threat to our air defences.

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Generally reports of sightings are made to police stations, RAF bases and air traffic control centres. These establishments are required to forward details of the reports to the MOD. The MOD focal point, Secretariat (Air Staff) 2a, in consultation with RAF air defence colleagues, consider all available information and decide if there is any evidence a threat.

with regard to our records, unfortunately most of the "UFO" files from before 1967 were destroyed as at the time they were not considered to be of sufficient public interest to merit retention. Since that date, in the context of an increase in public interest, files have been preserved. These, however, in line with all government files, fall under the terms of the Public Records Act which states that government files should generally stay closed for 30 years after the date of the most recent paper. However, a few files from the Fifties have survived and can be viewed at the Public Record Office in Kew. If we are asked about specific sightings we can and do provide details, such as a copy of the report (which would be sanitized to protect the witness’s personal details). We would not however wish to advertise this too widely, as we would risk inundation by such requests from the extremely active ’ufology’ community.


public interest, files have been preserved.

These, however, in

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generally stay closed for thirty years after the date of the most recent paper.

A few files from the Fifties have survived

and can be viewed at the Public Record Office, Ruskin Avenue,

Kew, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 4DU. The references of these files are as follows: AIR AIR AIR AIR AIR

16/1199 20/7390 20/9320 20/9321 20/9322

AIR 2/16918 AIR 2/17318 AIR 20/9994 PREM 11/855

I hope this is helpful in explaining the role of this Department with respect to â&#x20AC;&#x2122;UFOâ&#x20AC;&#x2122; sightings and I can assure you that there is certainly no attempt to cover up any information on this subject.

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Thank you for your letter of 8 June to the Secretary of State

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responsible Minister I have been asked to reply.

I think it would be helpful if I began by explaining that although the Ministry of Defence does receive some reports of UFO sightings, our only concern is to establish whether or not

there is evidence of any threat to the security of the united

Kingdom. Unless we judge that there is, and this has not been the case so far, we do not attempt to investigate further, or to identify whatever might have been seen.

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reports we receive that there are many strange things to be seen in the sky. We believe that explanations could be found for most of them, but do accept that there will always be a few

sightings that appear to defy explanation. We are open-minded

on these.

The details of the UFO sightings in Rendlesham Forest are set

out in a report submitted by the Deputy Base Commander at RAF Woodbridge, Lt Col Charles Halt, and I have attached a copy of

this for your information. I am aware that a number of strange claims have been made about these sightings in subsequent years,

but have to say that the report was examined carefully at the

time; no evidence of any threat was found.


I hope this is helpful, and has explained the position.

THE VISCOUNT CRANBORNE

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Later in the night a red sun-like light was seen through the trees. It n~ved about and pulsed. At one point it appeared to throw off glowing particles and then broke into five separate white objects and then disappeared. Immediate.ly thereafter, three star-like objects \’Iere" noticed in the sky,. two objects to the north and one to the south, all of which Vlere about 100 off the horizon. The obJects moved rapidly in sharp angu1 l’ movements and displayed red, green and bJu~-lights. The objects to the north appeared .to beetlipt-;cal through’ an 8-12 pOVler lens. They then turned to full circles. The objects. tothe~.north r mained in th.e sky. for was visible for two or thiEe the an hour or Dore. The dO\’/n hours and beamed a stream of light from time, to time. Numerous individuals, including the und rsigned, witnessed the aEtivities in paragraphs 2 and 3. 7 3.

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Thank you for your letter of 26 May, in which you asked about

UFOs.

I should explain first of all that although the Ministry of Defence does receive some reports of UFO sightings, our only concern is to establish whether or not there is evidence of any

threat to the security of the United Kingdom. Unless we judge that there is, and this has not been the case so far, we do not

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circulate about UFOs, but most of the reports that we get refer

to little more than a vague light or shape in the sky. We are

not aware of any evidence that would support the existence of extraterrestrial life; and we are not covering up any information on this subject.

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Dear Malcolm,

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It is not something which worries me personally but I sometimes wonder if in fact there have been genuine reports about UFOs. I know that there was an Committee that wanted to look into the whole issue but I think that this would be an error because we would inevitably have a mountain of UFOs in consequence. Is there really an issue

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~ DIUS of S(AF)/ADG 5597 Thank you for your letter of 5 September 1991, in which you raised further questions about the air incident over Kent on 21 April 1991.

Firstly, I can confirm that whatever was seen was not connected with any USAF activity. With regard to the criteria used to judge if such sightings represent a threat, the staff in my Department who are responsible for the air defence of the United Kingdom assess such sightings based on military expertise and an analysis of the available information. Unless it is judged that a sighting does present a threat, and I can confirm that this has not been the case so far, no further attempt is made to identify what was seen. You also asked about warning systems and the possibility of a hostile response being triggered. The mz operates a range of warning systems, but there are, of course, sophisticated operating procedures and safeguards to ensure that any response is appropriate to the circumstances. I can confirm that the incident over Kent did not result in any response.

As far as a review of UFO sightings is concerned, I am afraid that I simply could not justify the use of defence funds on such an investigation, unless a clear threat to the security of the UK had been identified, and as I have already said, no reports received to date fall into this category. Any air safety implications are, as I have already indicated, a matter for the CAA.

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The report also deals with British knowledge of Lieutenant Waldheim’s wartime role and the post-war handling of relevant records. Allegations that records were altered, destroyed or withheld to protect President Waldheim are shown to be unfounded. He was not by the United Kingdom either as a "top Nazi" or aswanted a war In order to clarify these issues virtually all the most relevant papers have been included as annexes to the report. A very few documents have either not been published or not in full, on the ground of security or personal sensitivity. All these documents have been examined by Professor Sir Harry Hinsley, lately the Master of John’s college, Cambridge, who agreed to scrutinise the results of the review in order to ensure its objectivity and thoroughness.I draw the House’s attention to his statement in the report, in which he vouches for the validity of the conclusions drawn from these documents. On the question ofPresident Waldheim’s aHeged post-war involvement with foreign intelligence services and his election to the United Nations, I do not intend to break the practice of successive Governments by commenting on such matters but I commend detailed consideration of the report.

criminal.

DEFENCE Kurt Waldheim Mr. Andrew Mitchell: To ask the Secretary of State for Defence when he will publish the results of the review of the 1986 investigation into the fate of captive British servicemen and the possible involvement of the then Lieutenant Waldheim.

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Mr. Archie Hamilton: My right hon. Friend the Prime Minister announced on ]6 February ]988 that a review would be undertaken of the results of the investigation carried out in 1986 by the Ministry of Defence into the fate of British servicemen and the possible involvement of the then Lieutenant WaJdheim. This was in the light, of both Research has concentrated on the main archives in the report of the Commission set up by the Austrian this country, in Germany and America, but other archives Government, which had access to a wider range of Sources were consulted, as well as individuals than those available for the 1986 investigation, and of the whose wartime service was of relevance or who had some other continued questioning of Lieutenant Waldheim’s role. Her expertise to offer. Although it can never be said Majesty’s Government have now conducted most that any historic report is definitively the last word, I am satisfied thorough inquiries into the allegations concerning his role that the investigation has produced, from the thousands of in areas of specific British interest. The results of this documents examined. what we believe to be review have been recorded in a report, which I have placed the main to-day in the Library of the House, and which is being relevant records. These have established a pattern showing the events, and the responsibilities of published by HMSO. the German headquarters’ officers involved in those events. We The review has been solely concerned with areas of therefore feel justified in bringing this long British interest and has centred on the cases of British exercise to a conclusion now, and publishing the results. servicemen, mostly members of the special forces, A factor in this decision has been the need to captured between October 1943 and October 1944 in consider the feelings of the relatives of the missing service Greece and the Greek islands under the control of the men. I very much regret that it has not been possible to resolve German Army Group E, in whose headquarters an the outstanding questions about what finally happened to Lieutenant Waldheim was then serving as a junior staff the missing service men, although I should officer. These cases, covering over 80 British servicemen, the like to assure House that any further information that include both those brought to the attention of the Ministry may come to light will be passed on to the families. of Defence and others identified during the research for this review. The review has not looked at other allegations Cornfield Circles concerning Lieutenant Waldheim’s involvement in areas not related to British interests. Mr. Colvin: To ask the Secretary of State for Defence The review has involved long and painstaking research. whether any official assistance has been given The historical evidence and the documents gathered have personnel to civilians investigating the origin ofby service been examined and analysed by the director of Army legal circles in Hampshire and Wiltshire; and if he willcornfield services who is well versed in the laws of war and who make a statement. retains a residual responsibility for the prosecution ofwat crimes. His duty is to examine the evidence that has been Mr. Archie Hamilton: I am not aware of any official put before him and advise whether, on that evidence, there assistance having been given service personnel to is a case for a potential accused to answer. After very civilians investigating the origin by of crop circles. careful consideration his conclusion concerning the then Lieutenant Waldheim is that there is no evidence from’ Detence Technology Enterprises Limited which guilt of a war crime might be inferred." The report indicates that Lieutenant Waldheim knew of Mr. SiIlars: To ask the Secretary of State for Defence the capture of the British service men and the possible fate how many licences have been arranged by Defence of "Commandos", but no evidence has come to light to Technology Enterprises Ltd.; and how many recipients are indicate that as a junior staff officer he had the power companies registered in Scotland. either to order or to prevent that fate or indeed to affect the outcome in any way. Knowledge in such circumstances is Mr. Neubert: Defence Technology Enterprises Ltd. has not itself a crime. Her Majesty’s Government have arranged 38 licences. Two are with companies registered in accepted the findings of the report. Scotland.

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There has been considerable media coverage recently of the phenomenon of "crop circles" and various suggestions have been put forward by groups, including the British UFO Research Association, and individuals as to the most likely origins. These suggestions range from UFO landings, to unusual meteorological effects and include the possibility that at least some of the circles are the work of hoaxers. Enquiries have not revealed any official assistance from 2. service personnel to those investigating the phenomenon. A written Answer to Teddy Taylor MP on 11 July (copy attached) confirmed that the MoD is not carrying out its wn enquiries and is satisfied that the circles are not the result of damage caused by service helicopter activity.

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Helicopters. 88. Sir Michael McNair.W n: To ask the Secretary of State for Defence what low-flying restrictions. are imposed on service helicopters.

Mr.Neubert: The general regulations governing the use of the United Kingdom low flying system by fixed-wing aircraft apply also to rotary wing aircraft. but with appropriate modifications to take account of their different capabilities.

RaiIgun 90. Mr. Wallace: To ask the Secretary of State for Defence if he will report on the progress of the Railgun

project.

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refer to the replies that I gave to the hon. Member for Clackmannan (Mr.O’Neil) on 28 June, column 456.

Independent European Programme Group 92. Mr. Ian Taylor: To-ask the Secretary of State for Defence what progress is being made through the Independent European Programme Group in achieving a more ’open defence market among North Atlantic Treaty Organisation allies.

Mr. Sainsbury: Significant progress is being made by the Independent European Programme Group towards the creation of an open European defence equipment market, based on measures set out in the action plan approved by Ministers at the Luxembourg meeting in November 1988. At their subsequent meeting in Lisbon on 28 June this year, Ministers reviewed the steps being taken to achieve the key objectives. The central feature of the open market is the dissemination to potential supplers of information about bidding opportunities. To this end, Governments have now nominated one or more focal points to which companies in other Independent European Programme Group countries can register interest in biddingJor defence contracts. Countries have also agreed to publish contracts bulletins by the turn of the year. The bulletins will be similar to those already issued by the United Kingdom and France. This more open market will bring benefits to all participating states. It will also be of considerable value to the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation as a whole by enhancing efficient procurement and thereby strengthening the’ European contribution to the Alliance. With this in mind the

Independent European Programme Group will continue to discourage any protectionist tendencies on either side of

the Atlantic. Another Important initiative which complements the open market is the creation of a European technology be known as. Euclid"-which will foster co-operation in research,. among Independent European Programme Group nations. During its current chairmanship of the Independent E ropean Programme Group, the United.Kingdom’s aim will be to ensure that the work of the group is taken forward effectively in the best interests of all the allies.

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West (Mr.Flynn), Offica/ Report. 19 June, column 60,on toxic waste at Ministry.of Defence premises, he w give the reason why it is not the practice to release details of such materials; and if he will consider revising his policy towards publication in line with the practice adopted by United States military facilities.

Mrs. Wise: To ask the Secretary of State for Defence what is the basis for his policy not to disclose details of radioactive and toxic waste stored or disposed of at Ministry of Defence premises.

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Mr. Speller: To ask the Secretary of State for Defence if he will make a staten: nt on the circumstances in which two 10ft x 2ft fuel containers were dropped at Stowford Cross in North Dev n on Thursday 29 June; and what steps he is taking to prevent this happening in the future. Mr. Neubert: The fuei containers in question were jettisoned by a Royal Navy Sea Harrier operating from the Royal Naval air station at YeoviltoD, while the aircraft was on an air combat training exercise. The aircraft unintentionally went into a spin and the pilot, following the correct procedures, released the fuel tanks as part ofhis spin recovery action. The fuel tanks were empty at the time. A local investigation has established that the pilot was not in breach of any regulations., To minirnise the risk to the public, air combat training is carried out over the least populated areas available and always wen away from towns and cities. It is also very rare for a Sea Harrier to enter into a spin in this way. The risk therefore of a repetition of this incident or of any consequent injury to persons on the ground is considered

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Mr. Teddy Taylor: To ask the Secretary of State for Defence what progress has been made in the inquiries initiated by Army he copters based in the south-west in investigating the origin offlattened circular areas. ofwheat; and if he will make a statenient. ."

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Neubert:. The Ministry. of Defence is not conducting any inquiries into,.the origins of flattened circular areas ofcrops. However,we are satisfied that they are not caused by service helicopter activity.

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Mr.Key:To ask the Secretary ofState for Defence how many children currently attend schools run by the service children education authority in fa) north-west Europe, (I)) Gibraltar, (c) Hong Kong, (d) Cyprus and (e) elsewhere. Mr. Neubert: Figures at summer term 1989:,

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bomber is to be based in Britain.

~NEWSLINEz., EXPRESS

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AN soldier who ran out of his base to help a patrol under IRA attack was shot by his com. rades, it was disclosed yesterday. The soldier was in plain clothes when he went out With his’ rifle to tackle IRA terrorists attacking his base in Londonderry, Northern Ireland. He was mistaken for a sniper tiring on the Rosemont base

23-year-old

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Defence sources in’Wash-

Soldier is shot by Army. injured during

flown over remote areas of Britain at night. It is understood that they were dismanand shipped in crates to avoid det.eCuon by SoViet spy

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Military analysts night the only reason for involving Britain so closely In the mostclanclesttne of Pentagon ,projects. was that the plane destined to use this country ILS its point for. Soviet . in time of war.’ The Stealth first fiew in 1981 and has been ft!8.cIy for combat since 1983’.but the Pentagon has kept ’It so secret that a first photogr&ph was released only U Although called a fighter, the Stealth is primarily a strike plane that uses highly clas.sitied technolOCies that make It invisible to all detection devices. Its job to penetrs.te enemy territory and destroy selected important targets. such as command posts. Officially known as the F’117a, the Stealth is slowfl}"ing single-seater capable of manoeuvres at low altitude. Some 52 of the angular. black planes are In operation and seven more will be <:01’0pleted by the Lockheed oration In the next few

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ington believe one may be housed in this country &lreay. At least four have been

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from the part of the city. The soldier, who has not been name<!, was hit twice by a quick. response Army unit and needed emergency operation. A joint police Army statement "The soldier reacted with initiative courage by takingand his weapon and going out Into the Creggan Road after a number of high. velOCity rounds had been fire<!at the base."

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Up to 30 of the Stealth planes ultimately expected at U.S. bases here.

satellites. . A senior RAF pilot is currently to the Air Force squadron flying the fighters from a remote desert base in Nevada..

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A soldier

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IRA attack in Londonderry on Thursday night was hit by shots fired by another soldier, the RUC said yesterday. He was seriously ill last night

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Soldiers shoot officer officer was shot anc An seriously wounded by fello\\. soldiers in a Bntlsh Army pat rol yesterday after they mlS took him for a gunman WhOIT

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seriously ill night after comradest mistook him for an IRA terrorist and shot him The . accident happened dunng a Shootoul be. troops and ter. rorist snipers who were attacking a. London..

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Police said the soldier was off duty when a number of high-velocity ahois were fired at the Rosemount’

RUC-Anny base, which stands between the Bogside and Creggan housing estates. He took a gun to investigate the source oC the shots. He was hit twice by shotS fired by an army patrol which believed it was fuing on the IRA Police denied a claim that the injured soldier bad .

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been shot by the IRA A university student from West Belfast became the 22nd person to be charged in con-

nection with the murders of two army corporals at an IRA Cuneral last March. Paul Magee, 24, from Tullagh Park, Andersonstown, was remanded in custody.

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ANNEX B DRAFT LETTER FROM MINISTER(AF) TO T TAYLOR ESQ MP

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f You tabled the attached Parliamentary Questions to the

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SecretarJki~s

of State for Transport and the Environment.

As

these both seem to relate to matters which are covered by the

Ministry of Defence, I have agreed to answer them. Taking first your question about "streak" aircraft,

I assume that you are referring to the United States Air Force

F-117A "Stealth" aircraft, which has been the subject of much media speculation.

I can assure you that this aircraft has

not flown in the United Kingdom. to deploy the

Should the US authorities wish

F-117A to this country in future, a request for

approval would be submitted to MOD Ministers in the usual way. Turning now to your second question, during the past four weeks 9 reports have been received from witnesses in the South East of England about flying objects emitting blue lighting, 4 suggesting a particularly bright blue light.

referring to blue lights are not uncommon.

meteorological conditions the bright white

Reports

Indeed, in certain

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sometimes strobe

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anti-collision lights on civil aircraft often appear blue on refraction.

We have no reason to suspect that these reports

indicate anything which could be considered a threat to national

security.

In view of this no specific investigations to identify


~ the source of the various reports have been initiated, and none

are considered necessary.

I hope that this is helpful.


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TUESDAY 15 NOVEMBER 19H5

MR TEDDY TAYLOR (CONSERVATIVE)(SOUTHEND EAST)

III Mr Taylor

To ask the Secretary of State for Transport, if he will make a statement on the routes covered by the experimenta United States Streak aircraft in the United Kingdom in recent weeks; and if any of these involved journeys over the South East of England

A N S W E R

(Mr Archie Hamilton)

I have been asked to reply. I shall write to my hon Friend.

Ministry of Defence

15 November 1988


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pattern around the airport, and the descriptions could relate to a modern jet aircraft. Our experience is certainly that most sightings can be adequately explained in term of natural occurrences such as aircraft observed at unusual angles, satellite debris, meteorological balloons to mention just a few.

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D!US of S(AF)!RNF 6123 and 6278

September 1988

Thank you for your letter of 15 June and 4 July on behalf of a number of your constituents, about unusual sightings witnessed in the Stafford area during the evening of 16 May 1988.

As you may know, the Ministry of Defence receives and

co-

ordinates information about Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs),

usually in the form of brief reports of the sightings which have been passed onto us by those individuals who witnessed them.

Our sole

concern is then to establish whether or not the sightings present a

threat to the security and defence of the United Kingdom.

Unless we

judge that they do, and this is not normally the case, we do not

usually attempt any further investigation.

As far as the 16 May sightings are concerned, I can confirm that we received a number of reports from members of the public, which appear to correspond roughly with the details given by your

constituents and I enclose copies of these, which your constituents

may find of interest.

In order to maintain the privacy of the report

originators, you will see that some details have been obscured.

Although as I have said above, we do not normally find it necessary to investigate specific sightings, and could not justify

the use of scarce MOD resources to this end.

staff

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that the reported phenomenon is quite likely to be connected


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with civil air traffic going into Birmingham Airport; which was exceptionally busy at the time in question.

The differing times of

the sightings could thus correspond to aircraft following a holding

pattern around the airport, and the descriptions could relate to a modern jet aircraft.

Our experience is certainly that most sightings

can be adequately explained in term of natural occurrences such as aircraft observed at unusual angles, satellite debris, meteorological balloons to mention just a

few.

I hope you and your constituents will find this helpful.

Roger Freeman

William Cash Esq MP

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DRAF1J.â&#x20AC;&#x2122; DIUS of S(AF)/RNF 6123 and 6278

September 1 988

Thank you for your letter of 15 June on behalf of a

number of

your constituents, concerning unusual sightings witnessed in the Stafford area during the evening of 16 May 1988.

As you may know, the Ministry of Defence receives and

co-

ordinates information about Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs), usual"ly in the form of brief reDorts of the si.ghtings which have been

passed onto us by those individuals who witnessed them.

Our sole

concern is then to establish whether or not the sightings present a ."1 , â&#x20AC;&#x2122;" threat to the security and defence of the United t..:Lngaom.

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judge that they aD, and this is not normally the case, we do not usually attempt any further investigation~

As far as the 16 May sightings are concerned, I can confirm that we received a

number of reports from members of the public, which

appear to correspond roughly with the details given by your constituents and I enclose copies of these, which your constituents

may find of interest.

In order to maintain the privacy of the report

originators, you will see that some details have been obscured.

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staff

I am advised by my

that the reported phenomenon is quite likely to be connected


with civil air traffic going into Birmingham Airpor exceptionally busy at the time in question.

,

which was

The differing times of

the sightings could thus correspond to aircraft following a

holding

pattern around the airport, and the descriptions could relate to a modern jet aircraft.

Our experience is certainly that most sightings

can be adequately explained in term of natural occurrences such as

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hope you and your cons"tituents will find

tDlS

helpful

Roger Freeman

William Cash MP

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WILLIA fvf CASH, vLP.

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15 June 1988

~4v I have been requested to write to you by constituents of mine regarding reports in my constituency of sightings of unidentified objects and lights in the vicinity of Stafford on 16th May at 9.45 pm.

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I have to confess to being highly sceptical about UFOs but apparently a number of people who saw these things were very emphatic and, therefore, I feel it is right to raise this matter with you. I look forward to hearing from you.

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atmosphere as well as meteorological balloons and aircraft lights may explain many such incidents. I can certainly assure you that we have no evidence whatsoever to suggest that intelligent life from outer space or alien spacecraft have landed on our planet.

It would not of course be appropriate for me to comment on the official US position with regard to UFOs although I suspect it is in fact similar to our own. I hope your constituent will find this helpful.

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UFO Societies

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particuJ.ar incidents, by offering wllaâ&#x20AC;&#x2122;lever

information we have on those incidents, but we do not however have tllG resources to respond

to more general enq0iries or to undertake

sllrveys of UFO data.

We are of

Ollrse

aware of the views of UFO societies and others

which are often give11 proffilnence in

~ne

media, but our own experience

suggests that rational explanations could probably be found for mos-t

UFO sigl1tings, and tllat unUSllal cloud

atmos

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phenomena such as ball lightniJlgt

formations, satellite debris re-entering tne eartl1â&#x20AC;&#x2122;S

ere as well as meteorological balloons and aircraft lights may

explain many

SUC11

incidents~

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no evidence whatsoe"ver to suggest -that intelligent life from outer

space or alien spacecraft have landed on our planet.

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not of course be appropriate for me to comment on the

official US position with regard to UFOs althougll

fact similar to our own.

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The Hon Sir Charles Morrison, MP

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records are onl;.r available fronl 1967,

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can also confirm that the sole interest of the MOD in these

matters is to establish whether or not UFOs present a

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threat to the

nee of’ the; United Kingdom using our jlldgt:;1TI.ent based

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identify the objects and we could not justify the appointment of trained ooservers as you suggest~

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receive are referred to appropriate staff incluQlng those res"oonsible

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part of their normal dl1ties.

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however have the resources to respond to more

enqlliries or to

genera~

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Viscount whether the pn;sent Guvcmment adhere to of tl1t: previous Government \,hich 1 put the the debatc threc years ago forward when! repiied m’hl ur the:;;: so-calletl that HOlis,:, Lordships’ in your sightings can DC accounted Cor as natural phenumena’!

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D/US of S(AF)/DGT 28/1/4

July 1985

Thank you for your letter of 24 June 1985 concerning our

previous exchange of correspondence on Unidentified Flying Objects.

I am sorry you were unhappy with my response but I can assure you my department does take the subject seriously.

I do appreciate

the very real conoern which caused you to raise the subject.

Lord Trefgarne

Lord Hill-Norton Job No

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24th June, 1985 The Lord Trefgarne, Hause of Lards, Landon&

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Thank you far your letter of 19th June, in reply to mine of 1st May addressed to the Defence Secretary. Apart from good manners, which might be thought to have required some earlier acknowledgement, I am astounded that B serious letter to B Minister from a member of the House of Lards wasl allowed to main unanswered for seven weeks.

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I am sorry that you take the view that the sort of uproar which occurred in Suffolk in December 1980 is of ’no defence significance’, because I have no doubt from rather longer experience that you are mistaken. Unless Lt. Col. Halt was out of his mind, there is clear evidence in his report that British and probably territory airspace were intruded upon by an unidentified vehicle in that month, and that no bar to such trusion was effective. If Halt’s report is not believed, there is equally clear evidence of a serious misjudgement of events by members of the U.S.A.F& at an important base in the U.K. Either way the events can hardly be without defence significance.

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There is B good deal more which I could add, but I shall not weary you further on this narrow issue. I remain convinced, as I said in my letter to Heseltine, that you are courting trouble. The media and the U:S. Freedom of Information Act will certainly prove more difficult to brush off than you evidently Bxpect. I have done what I saw B my duty~ bearing in mind that I am still on the Active List, in attempting to warn you. I shall continue to press, in various ways, far a mors responsible attitude from this, and successor, Governments.

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You wrote to Michael Heseltine on 1 May 1985 about the sighting of an unidentified flying object near RAP WOOdbridge in December 1980. Michael has asked me to reply as UFO question, fall within my responsibilities.

I do understand your concern and I am grateful to you for having taken the trouble to write. I do not believe, however, that there are any grounds for changing our view, formed at the time, that the events to significance.

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I was able to see the Cable News Network documentary at their London office by courtesy of their American Headquarters. But I have no. doubt that they would be very ready to show it to you personally. or to a small group of your officials. if you felt .that this would be helpful in briefing you.

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Patrick \VaIl asked the Secrdary of State for Defence (1)how many "llegce! hndings l)y linidenline flying objects have been madc in 19t;o, JC)S} and J 983, respectively; and how many havc been invcstigated by his Department’s personnel; _ (2)how miw)’ unexplained sightings there have bcc,n in 1980, ]98J 1982 and J983, n:spcclivcJy; anJ whkh of these had been traced by radar and with what result.

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confirmed by the last three several senior ~ base offic,crs On the InfOrmation,the US cOmmandersl) .Yet base government have ~itiug Both these under Preecto. of denied its parties slso roruse eXistence.50 have samplesJas p1aihly to Our own )<1oD. recorded Oh the aCknp"ledge the existence of the photos and tape. As T said right at the start this is the surface of a complicated here.But it business.And I can aCmethi"", happened "hich to me only Scratch (remaining as the have MoD Objective as T and US en w>11ing to government can) that Use a crazy "ant to hide.To even COmply UFo tale as "’th do a convenient thi a the,; fabrication of tru:th from evidence and Smokescreen and British oi tizehs) testiman;;’ (ceriainly possibly to obscure the Major Sir Patrick Wall,of the defence But these followed the "’e;,s committee, has asked of the ’orld beforehand,were questions in the oOdswallop e’:d frankly the "rong house the dock OVer eap,te my QUestions to ask" Belgrano right briefi"", him now) responded gOvernment had Stanley (the aame seen the Halt and did man in him last Ncvember nOihing but admit memo to the MoD."atrick :Iall that the and he refused. groUnds that four backed off.> point blank to spoke to years ago is ask more too long Cllestions Former Chief’ of into the past! the staff at the also been of MoD and admiral pariial bel and of says there is been briefed.3~ the fleet ,Lcrd NUI-);orton, ha,s hothing he can he prere.s QQ. ’he q’iet This leaves life and us pith one cf tieD POSitions.The happ en,ca pa b Ie 0 f dama,"i evidence remain s ’he ng and i rradie. tit is unexplained. t i w’ civil clearl" Suggests SO"ething intras on by an I and Are the 0 ffi ci a I govsrnment real " irradiating 0 b je po 8iti canhoi be i ct gno ring an une""lei 0 n >"ight next to one 0 r satis~ied. ned our liA’ro base s? If So I ’.,

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Early in the morning of 27 Dee EO (approxil1k ely 0300L), tvlO US/\F security police patrolmen saw unusual li9hts outside the back gate at R;.\f \,ioodbridge. ThinkinlJ an aircraft might have crashed or been forced dOl’In, they called for’ permission to go outside the gate to invest~gate. The on-duty flight chief n::sponded end allovlcd three patrolme:1 to proceed on foot. The individuals reported seeing a strange glowing object in the forest. The object \’ias described as being metalic in appear’ance and triangular in shape, approximately two to three meters across the base and approximately t\>1O meters high. It il’luminated the entire forest with a white light. The object itself had a pulsing red light on top and a bank(s) of blue lights underneath. The object was hovering on legs. As the patrolmen approached the object, it maneuvered through or the trees and disappeared. At this time the animals on a near’b farm \’Ient into a frenzy. The object was briefly sighted approximately an hour later near the back gate.

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2. The next day, three depress ions 1 1/2" deep and 7" in di alllcter found where the object had been sighted on the ground. The foll m’/i n9 night (29 Dee 80) the area was checked for radiation. eta/gamma readings of 0.1 mil1iroentgens were recorded with peak readings in the three depressions and near the center of the triangle formed by the depressions. A nearby tree had moderate (.05-.07) readings on the side of the tree toward the depressions, Later in the night a red sun-like light was seen through the It nmved about and pulsed. At one point it appeared to throw offtrees. glowing particles and then broke into five separate white objects and then disappeared. Immediately thereafter, tht’ee star-like objects were noticed in the sky, two objects to the north and oQe to the south, all of which were about 100 off the horizon. The objects moved rapidly in sharp angulal’ mo v e me n t sand di s p 1 aye c! I’ed, 9 r e e n a n cJ b 1 u e 1 i 9 h t s . The 0 b e c t s to the north appeared to be e11 iptical through an 8-12 pavler ens. j Thc:y then tun1ed to full circles, The cbjects to the north remained in the sky for an hout, or more. The object to the south was visible fOr~ IO or three hours and beamed dCMn a stream of jight ft’om time to time. NU ej~ous indivi3.

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don!t sit~camer:amn.n VI-as around ’Of Sn0\\~n ti:~e r~p()!t lh;Uev~:,;s that 3ny ung 1Vly foUo\ving- morntng on Br~al’:-

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The airmen tried to, aDproach nH:’? objectt but ,it ,thcn~ tiS l S\v!iY Inteiugcnt ron~ t.hnugn un{}er t oL The foHcVlil1g d::(,,;,. :a.nd~

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by f!Jlr b~se. "fhc poLlce: Dff1cers v{no visited the sHe rted that thev could see UFO, only the Orford ZoJe::;s I ,hthnuse. Like Vince Timr. kitH~?, they.attribute(~ the lan.dlDg to ;:;.rnfnBJs~ The for a !s;nded ship v:as !ookin;; verj shaky f indeed. hud rnade the ,rdrmen think tha.t something had erashed into the fon::st in the f1rs.t place? 1 rJ ce:ldy knew from orev)ous eases th.it a brifHant .metf~0r. a pit:ce of !1atiln;1 debris from space O\H~n!ng up 1n the atmo.s-, rhert;. cou!d give such an. impressIOn, Bilt I WilS unable to find records of such n::eteor (In the rnorning. of I)eccmber 27, Here the po1ice account provided a vital ie2d by show~ Halt.s memo, ng that \vrittcn t;::{O v’.~eeks after the event, had got the date ofthe sightiLg wrong, It occIJrrcd on. December 26, not December Vt<r

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,Unidl’JJti!.t:(! FJ) ng Object" ,Sir PatricJ; WaJl asked tlie: S~’clct ry of St;1le for IN!’U;CC. 1) how m.:my allcg(:c] bndings by unidentified \ (10 ’>r.,’J fJY,’;:lg C’oycts havc teen m:,ck ill 1980 .. ’- , J n:~ .l70..", ;Iv I Hd. n"’-’ J90.), resp{’.c{jvcJy; and 1\0’\’1 1’11<’.1’1)’ ha\’t’ becn invcsti",atcd I"" !\;C !)"p"-. ....) _1. ,1 t1i1Clh"! $ p;;rS{)l1n.:: ; ~

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th~

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