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the playground with children drawings. These kids were the final spark – what they were doing was brilliant. I thought to myself - I’m going to do some graffiti in Paris combining all the things I had learned over the years, what I had seen in New York and what these kids were doing. I started out with a friend called Gérard who was working with me at the playground. The first time was in October 81. A that time finding spray paint was a seriously hard task, the only kind that existed back then were designed to paint cars and were decidedly expensive. So we bought these expensive sprays and one night we went out to do an American graffiti because that’s what I had seen, what I had in mind. The American Graffiti, writing your name… But… We didn’t have the technique, the result was terrible really ugly. So on the way back I told Gerard that we should do some stencils because I also remembered what I had seen in Italy as a child. So this led me to do stencils of rats, of rat’s shadows, my friend Gerard helped me and we were doing rats, little characters, we were bombing Paris, especially the 14th arrondissement. We know you must be sick of this question – but it has to be asked – why the rats – what was the symbolism?

I was very shocked by the number of rats there was in Paris - when you took the metro in the evening, there were literally rats everywhere. These days I’m based in the countryside, but I imagine they’re still all over the metro – but in the 80’s it was just

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Issue 9 of LSD Magazine is out now. Bursting at the digital seams with sizzling art, searching interviews, slamming music, a dash of politi...

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