around in circles with everything I was doing before. But yeah I don’t really go on regular skate websites or anything anymore.
What is it exactly that you dislike about more conventional skate videos then?
HM: It’s hard to explain. Part of it is linked to the fact that although there is innovation it feels tiny to me. And not even particularly significant as all it does is show a group of already initiated people that you can add a kickflip or a shove-it somewhere. I’d like to see innovation that opens up skateboarding to people outside of skateboarding. And I’m not talking about jumping further or higher than the next man. It’s rare that skateboarders care about opening up what they do to people that don’t skate… Why do you think you do?
HM: Yes it’s rare and it might be because of that. Maybe I felt uncomfortable explaining what we do with my skateboarding friends to my non-skateboarding friends or loved ones. I think it can only be good to open it up and have non-initiated people’s feedback. That’s the sort of thing that could lead you to try something else and then say something else. But I know it’s always hard to try to do something different to what we think skateboarding is. That’s why I sometimes think that for me skateboarding is not a good medium to produce the things I want to do. RB: It’s a shame though because as you said, when you do show videos to people that don’t skate and they are able to appreciate them (to some degree at least), they often make very interesting points. Comments about stuff you wouldn’t necessarily notice – probably because they have a distance to them that we don’t have. Like Hugo’s girlfriend… Coming back to this concept: once you guys had agreed that you were going to focus on interactions between the skater and the
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