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February 2012 www.debtfreedigi.co.za
DC debt? It is understood that when a consumer applies for debt review, they are struggling to meet their debt obligations, and may have a spotty repayment history. Naturally so, or the consumer would not need help. It could be that the consumer received a Section 129 Notice, which advised them to approach a debt counsellor for advice, because a creditor is about to send them a summons.
the proposals into a court application and have the matter set down at court. It is a real blow to a Debt Counsellor if, after doing all of this hard work, the consumer simply decides not to make their payments. All this work has been done, and the DC is going to struggle to recover the funds owed. What can they do? In the last 3 months theDCI have helped DC’s collect over R180 000 owed to them in restructuring fees, legal fees and after-care fees. At present, theDCI is helping over 50 DC’s collect approximately R7.2 Million owed, all at no upfront costs!
It is therefore a great thing when a Debt Counsellor can consult with a troubled consumer, and help them to adjust their household budget, and make proposals to their creditors based on what they realistically can afford to pay each month. The Debt Counsellor will then, For more info login at www.thedci.co.za after some negotiation, even help turn and click on “collections”
News, news, news...
The Con-Court Section 129
They came to my home
CPA part two
ABSA & AllProDC Meeting
EDITOR Traditionally February is a difficult month for consumers. Gone are the false hopes brought about by end of year resolutions and desperately needed holidays, sadly the harsh reality of another month end (January) coming and going with it’s trail of bills and extra costs like school books and clothes have generally left consumers crushed in it’s wake. So, as some people get a gooey giddy feeling as valentines day approaches, many other consumers are hitting rock bottom. Fortunately here in SA they can look to Debt Counsellors for help in trying to face the future with some sort of plan. First off, well done consumer on realizing you
need help! Sticking your head in the sand is the worst thing to do. Secondly, well done DC’s for staying in the industry and fighting to balance consumer’s rights with the needs of creditors. Thirdly, well done creditors if you are not just issuing 86(10) and trying to undermine the system. It must be said that the “Big Banks” seem mainly responsible for not co-operating with the debt review process and trying to find ways around the National Credit Act to get at consumers assets. Not the Debt Review departments (who want jobs) but often the Legal Departments. Shame on you if you are one of these short sighted creditors. Most creditors continue to see the benefit of free collections in the form of Debt Review however the banks are fighting about the wording of notices they send to consumers when they want to go after their assets and we look at that in this issue along with info on the CPA and tactics used by some unscrupulous creditors. So consumers, make your payments, get educated, stay strong and get yourself debt free!
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NEWS FLASH For daily debt counselling news visit www.debtfreedigi.co.za ABSA on Forum ABSA was formally invited to be a member of the Concerned Debt Counsellor Forum (http://debtconcern.webs.com/)and have provisionally accepted the invitation. It is hoped that they will be able to add their voice to the forum and present a credit providers outlook on pressing matters in the industry. ABSA have noted that they have provisionally agreed to utilise the forum as a communication channel, and information sharing platform. The forum will however not be a stage to resolve complaints for ABSA.
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theDCI provide Western Cape Stats re: Debt Counsellor numbers In Sep ‘11, there were 382 DC listed by the NCR in the Western Cape. When theDCI tried to contact them, using information on the NCR’s website, there were 98 wrong numbers. The NCR could not provide correct numbers.
Of the 284 contacted, 52 had not been actively practicing for more than 2 years. This left 193 confirmed DC’s in the province that theDCI could definitely confirm as still registered, although some were not taking on new clients. This year in February, theDCI once again contacted these DC’s. In less than 5 months, a further 63 were no longer practicing. There had been a further 24 DC’s who’s details had changed, but had not been updated on the NCR’s website. There are now approximately 145 practicing DC’s in Cape Town and surrounds (including the Westcoast & up to Bredasdorp) which theDCI can confirm, 22 of which are not taking on new clients. Meaning there are only 123 DC’s taking on new clients in WC .
FNB act in bad faith in Debt Review FNB recently got themselves into trouble in the Durban High Court while trying to get judgment in regard to a bond account of consumers under debt review. KZN High Court Judge Fikile Mokgohloa even described FNB as “reckless” in failing to participate in good faith in the debt review process involving the home owners Nagine and Kursheda Raheman. The couple had been under debt review since January 2010 and had been making restructured debt repayments according to proposals sent since February to FNB by the debt counsellor. The proposed repayment amount had even
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NEWS CONT. been increased in a second set of proposals in March 2010. In May 2010, the proposal was set before the Durban Magistrates Court. During all this time, the bank did not object to the proposals made nor did they make any suggestions, and the Rahemans’ continued to make payments via the debt review process. However at the High Court, FNB claimed in their papers that it was entitled to try auction off the consumer house, as it had terminated the debt review in accordance with National Credit Act, and that notice of this had been sent to the Rahemans in April 2010. FNB had then sent the consumers a summons and made application at the High Court. This practice seems to be becoming increasingly common as many banks are sending these 86(10) notices to consumers even though they are paying funds each month and trying to settle their debts in a responsible way. Defending matters at High Court can be very costly and many consumers are hesitant to go and defend their rights. Not so with the Rahemans. They were determined not to let the bank simply take their house and made sure they had their say in defense of their actions and explained how they had been responsibly paying toward the debt via debt review. Judge Mokgohloa found that the bank had failed to participate meaningfully in the debt review and said: “The legislation obliges the consumer and credit provider to participate in good faith in the review, and any negotiations should result in responsible debt rearrangement…The bank failed to respond to the proposals… I am of the view that the plaintiff’s failure to participate in the review proceedings is reckless.” Judge Mokgohloa dismissed the application from FNB with costs. Which means that
FNB had to pay for the whole court process. Judgments like this are becoming common as the courts are defending consumers rights to make payments via debt review.
Std Bank are getting too many complaints to do their job Standard Bank have issued this statement regarding delays in responses regarding debt review and complaints related to debt review in Feb 2012: We have, in the recent weeks, experienced a high influx of queries and complaints which have adversely impacted our turnaroundtime. As a result, our queries and complaints are not being resolved within the stipulated turnaround time of five business days. We apologize for the inconvenience that this is causing. We assure you that all the matters are being given the attention they deserve. It seems that because clients and DC’s have too much to complain about they can’t get all their work done. This may relate back to 86(10) campaigning by the bank.
ABSA 86(10) date “technical glitch” ABSA Debt Review Department sent out a notice in Feb to consumers and DC’s regarding some incorrectly dated 86(10) termination notices. The notice stated that: In response to the termination letters dated 17 January 2012 and received on 03 and 04 February 2012... Kindly be advised that there was a technical glitch with our Printing Department, which resulted in letters being delayed. This was only brought to our attention on Saturday, 04 February 2012, that the dates on the letters were not amended accordingly
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Deputy President: Joseph de Broize Secretary: Philippa Davis Deputy Secretary: Mauritz van den Heever Treasurer: Mel da Silva Member: Tony Richards Member: Ancil van Heerden Then there are the regional representatives: Eastern Cape Branch Representative: Anton van de Venter Gauteng Branch Representative: Russell Dickerson This follows on after the bout of complaints Kwa-Zulu Natal Branch Representative: Kobus relating to 86(10)s issued by ABSA at the end du Toit of December (mainly on or around the 22nd Western Cape Branch Representative: Annora Dec) which many DC’s received a huge batch. Mostert Normally creditors invite Debt Counsellors and finally the new post of CEO: or consumers to contact them during the 10 DCASA CEO: Wikus Olivier day period mentioned in order to sort out any complications but due to the holidays and office closures this presented a huge problem DC’s find themselves under debt review... at that time of year. clerical error Corne Myles (a DC) has joined many other DC’s Creditors issue 86(10) letters primarily when in being captured as “under debt review” by a they wish to pursue legal action against a credit provider. In this case, ABSA captured the client instead of sorting a matter out through incorrect details on a court order for a consumer debt review. and rather than capture the consumers name they captured the debt counsellors ID number. This is something that has happened to many debt counsellors. ABSA were quick to assist in removing the debt review status from their systems . This is not the first time ABSA have made this mistake with Corne’s accounts. Last DCASA choose new National Executive year the same thing happened and was also Committee for 2012 sorted out after some paperwork was sent Just in case you were wondering who does back and forth. At least Corne’s clients can say what at the Debt Counselling Association that their DC really knows what it is like to be of South Africa, here is the DCASA National under debt review. Executive Committee structure for 2012: NEC: President: Paul Slot
NEWS CONT. 22 Loans from the same Creditor? A Cape DC has reported a single consumer with 22 loans/accounts from African Bank. African Bank have made provision for the consumer to pay off the debts at basically no interest whatsoever, bringing the consumers obligations down from R16 000 each month to a far more realistic R5000 monthly.
Vehicle sales commission earners sigh with relief. Vehicle sales statistics are showing around a 7 – 8% increase in sales in recent months compared to last year. Among other factors there has been an increased demand for new vehicles from rental companies accounting to about 17% of the new vehicles sold. New vehicles are also showing increases in sales compared to second hand vehicles.
NCR in Soweto The National Credit Regulator (who has been very quiet over the last few months) did a press promotion and consumer education appearance in Soweto this month. They mentioned some interesting stats: the NCR has received over 440 000 phone calls to their call center since opening their doors, and the NCR website has over 1 million hits since going live. However many DC’s are still complaining that after being in business for almost 5 years they have never received a single consumer referral from the NCR. The NCR has registered 4,815 credit providers (508 matters involving these creditors have been investigated), 2,023 debt counsellors (146 matters involving DC’s have been investigated) and 11 credit bureaus.
Constitutional Court The Sebola (& NCR & SERI) v Std Bank (& BASA) Constitutional Court application re: Sect. 129 meaning of the word “deliver”, and whether a consumer needs to know if a creditor is taking legal action against them was heard on Tuesday 14th February, Judgment was reserved. To find out more about what this all means and what the arguments were, read the article in this issue.
The Rand does well The Rand hit 7.77 to the US$ on Thursday 26th January, its strongest level in nearly three months. The currency continues to hold its ground despite economic turmoil worldwide.
More Debt review enquiries this year Debtbusters (a big DC company) report that they were getting around 1000 enquiry phone calls about debt counselling each week in January ‘12 compared to 300/week last year January, showing an increase in activity in the industry this year as consumers continue to feel the pinch of increased prices and non increasing wages.
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The Constitutional Court considers Section 129 Sebola and Another v Standard Bank When it was heard14 February 2012
Section 129 of the NCA (which applies to all mortgage bonds and most other credit agreements) sets out steps that the credit provider must take if a consumer defaults. The section says that after 20 days of being in default, the creditors should â€œdraw the default to the notice of the consumer in writingâ€? before debt enforcement. This would include notifying the consumer of the default (missed payments), and proposing that the consumer refer their credit agreements to a debt counsellor or to another form of alternative dispute resolution for the parties to resolve any dispute or agree on a plan to bring the payments up to date and sort out their debt problems.
The Constitutional Court:
The question that the Constitutional Court needs to answer, is whether a consumer can say they never got the notice, or that it was never drawn to their notice as a defense to a court application to enforce the credit agreement (like if a bank sends a summons and wants to sell a persons home). The Supreme Court of Appeal and a number of High Courts, have in the past decided that it is not a defense to such a matter for a consumer to say they did not receive the notice.
Mashilo & Nombeko Sebola
Mr & Mrs. Sebola, were behind on their bond repayments (they got a bond of just over R1 million in Nov 2007) when Standard Bank eventually decided they would like to sell the house on auction rather than continue to try get the Sebolas’ to solve the problem. The plan was to kick the Sebolas out their house, sell it on auction, and then ask Mr Sebola to pay off the shortfall (if there was one) over time. They even sent him letters and notices by registered post and later a summons about all of this, he did not however, receive any of the documents, as the Post office sent them to the wrong town. So Standard Bank went off to court...without the Sebolas’. When Mr Sebola later learned that the bank had already got a judgment against him in September ‘09, he made an application to the South Gauteng High Court for rescission of judgment to stop the bank selling his place. In that application he raised as a possible defense the fact that he did not receive a section 129 notice. In August ‘11 his application was dismissed on the basis that the bank need only show that it sent the notice, not that Sebola received it. Judge Phillip Boruchowitz said the question at issue had been authoritatively settled by the Supreme Court of Appeal last year. The SCA had ruled that it was sufficient to establish compliance if there was delivery of the notice in the manner chosen by the consumer in his contract, and that actual receipt was the consumer’s responsibility. Judge Boruchowitz said the high court could not depart from the decision of the Supreme Court of Appeal and was bound by it. Later a full court of three judges on appeal at the court ruled the same. Most Consumers would have backed off at this point and let the house be sold even though they had tried their best to remedy the situation, however, with a little financial help and a tough attitude the Sebolas decided to take things further...to the Constitutional Court. “The finding by the (appeal court) in the Rossouw decision that the responsibility of the delivery of the National Credit Act section 129 notice is squarely placed on the shoulders of the consumer … cannot be acceptable in a democratic society based on human dignity, equality and freedom,” Mr Sebola said in his affidavit to the Constitutional Court in October ‘11. By this point SERI, the NCR and BASA had got involved as friends of the Court.
Represented by Chris Loxton Std. argued that they had already abandoned the judgment they got without Mr. Sebola knowing and the matter is now moot. They pointed out that Mr Sebola had been behind on his payments for a year already before they sent him the notices and summons. Standard Bank stand by the many judgments of various courts which say that say that a creditor only has to send out a notice, not that a consumer needs to actually get it, before they take legal action. They say that their contracts set out how consumers say they want to receive information and at which address they want to get notices. If consumer move etc. it is up to consumer to notify the bank of the change.
amicus curiae Friends of the Court
Represented by Stuart Wilson SERI was admitted as amicus curiae (or a friend of the court) in the Sebola case because they said their argument was unique and not presented by Mr Sebola. Basically SERI say that, even though the matter is “moot”, it is nonetheless in the interests of justice for the Court to consider the interpretation of section 129 of the NCA. They say that a section 129 notice informs a consumer of important statutory rights which are essential to ensure that sales in executions of homes are constitutionally valid. Its actual receipt by a consumer must be required before a credit provider can enforce a credit agreement. Nonetheless, the credit provider does not need to prove in advance that a consumer has received a notice in terms of section 129, and it will always be for a consumer to raise non-receipt of the notice before court as a defense. Once it is established that a section 129 notice has not made its way to a consumer, SERI contends, a Judge should postpone the proceedings to allow the consumer to consider the contents of a section 129 notice during the next 10 days and decide whether to exercise any of the options set out in it. SERI also proposed that the court declare that section 129(1) of the Act requires that the notice issued in its terms “comes to the attention of the consumer”.
Represented by Matthew Chaskalson The NCR who regulate the credit industry register credit providers and are tasked with consumer education regarding the NCA. Since this matter has to do with the Act they wanted to be involved. The NCR took the side of the consumer in this matter stating that consumers need to know what options they have. Essentially they also say that the exercise of the consumer’s rights triggered by receipt of the notice, such as referring the credit agreement to a debt counsellor, would be of no effect if the consumer doesn’t receive the notice and learn about them. The NCR want to promote nonlitigious methods to resolve such cases where possible. They have been quoted as saying “There is a lack of capacity in the court system to deal with the volume of credit-related cases, and given the ever-increasing volume of such cases, this backlog continues to grow”. They say that where alternative dispute resolution is pursued (eg. debt counselling) customers are more likely to go on to make payments. Of course, other courts have made this a non issue by excluding accounts, where a section 129 notice has been sent, from debt review. However Debt Counsellors can help consumers pay in full or according to an arrangement for that particular account while paying less to all their other debts. The NCR argue that in cases where an opportunistic consumer deliberately
fails to collect a registered letter, the credit provider can protect itself by having a sheriff deliver the notice. It would cost between R28 and R44 on average where needed, and these costs would be born by the consumer, and would be minor compared to the cost of enforcing the credit agreement through legal means. Mr. Chaskalson, said the poor stood to lose the most in terms of executions since they were most likely to face service delivery issues regarding changed or hard to deliver to domicilum addresses etc.
Represented by Gilbert Marcus, SC BASA are concerned that if creditors have to send a sheriff of the court to serve documents like a section 129 letter on consumers it will slow down their collection process and that it will add some costs to offering credit. This is even though any extra costs for such action are simply added to consumers accounts. They are concerned as Basa spokesperson Nicky Lala-Mohan said that every consumer could just say they never got the notice and then the creditor would have to send it to them again. They have been criticized for over dramatized the situation by saying that this matter could “endanger the entire credit industry”. They have also said in what sounds like a threat, that “It would make the business of providing credit even more risky and onerous than it already is, which would have a chilling effect on the South African credit market”.
Questions asked & discussed by the Court: Justice Edwin Cameron wanted to know about the risks to the credit market if banks could not exercise their rights in the usual way. Chief Justice Mogoeng Mogoeng wanted to know: “How do you stop abuse from a debtor who simply refuses to pay and says, repeatedly, that they never received a notice?” Judge Johan van der Westhuizen said that consumers might think “I am not going to open this thing because the bank is probably after me,” Judge Yacoob, who is blind pointed to other possibilities with “ a consumer who can’t see”. Other scenarios discussed included a child or an angry spouse throwing away the notice without the consumer even knowing it had been delivered.
Why it doesn’t matter
Why it could matter
Even though the Section 129 Notice tells consumers to go for debt counselling courts have ruled that if a consumer gets a section 129 notice for an account before applying for debt review then that account can’t be added into their debt review...their other accounts can but not that one.
If consumers don’t get the notice they won’t be advised to go for debt counselling. If the court rules that consumers must become aware of the notice or that another 10 days must be given to consumers then conssumers could apply fro debt review before getting these notices come into effect and they could have these accounts included in their debt review
Judgment has been reserved.
They came to my home
Debt Review consumers are reporting to their Debt Counsellors that they are receiving visits at their homes from representatives of the major banks. One DC reports three consumers who have had visits from the credit providers at their homes in the last few days. Two received phone calls from collection people, representing the bank, requesting meetings in the evening at their homes. One consultant did not even call the client, they just pitched up at their house in the evening. The consultants then inform the consumer that they are “no longer under debt review” but that they can “help them” to put a payment plan in place. With so much confusion at the banks regarding bulk 86(10) drives it is seldom that the banks even acknowledge that consumers are under review any more. However it seems these visits target consumers in the process. The consultants tell consumers that all they would need to do is sign the banks paper work
which includes an Acknowledgement of Debt and paperwork which states that the consumer has now chosen to work directly with the bank and agree to a payment arrangement. In some cases the rate and amount asked for is shockingly less than that agreed to by the bank in the person’s court application for debt review. Consumers are advised to avoid signing any such documents. However when consumers have told consultants that they would not sign the papers they have been threatened with legal action, as according to the consultants, this matter was now “beyond their control” without the signed documentation. DC’s have contacted the major banks involved requesting information about why consumers are getting these visits, needless to say, no response has been forth coming. If you receive such a call or visit please inform your Debt Counsellor and your representing attorney.
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ABSA & AllProDC Meeting February 2012 An official meeting was held on the 7th of Feb 2012 between ABSA and the Alliance of Professional Debt Counsellors. They met to discuss problems facing the debt review industry and concerns regarding ABSA’s service. Mr. Paul Nieuwoudt of AllProDC, assisted by Mrs. A Pretorius, met with among others the new Manager of Business Partner Relations, Grace Nkomo (Featured in the Jan 2012 issue of Debtfree DIGI). The AllProDC representatives described her as being “on top of her game and very well informed.” The meeting was said to be “fruitful” and ABSA was informed of the more than 60 debt counsellors on the Concerned Debt Counsellor Forum who are considering a joint group complaint in regards to the recent increase in termination notices received. AllProDC are saying that many of these 86(10) termination notices tend to be unlawful or unfounded. More than 500 complaints could originate from the 60 debt counsellors who are considering the joint complaint. ABSA was shocked to hear this. Especially in view of their recent drive to remove backlogs and increase turn-around times etc. They have encouraged these Debt Counsellors to bring their concerns to ABSA through the correct channels. They have stated that even
though ABSA members might be active on the concerned DC forum, they intend to use the forum “as a communication channel and information sharing” platform, rather than complaints handling. AllProDC are currently collecting complaints from members of their association as well as other DC’s (belonging to DCASA or who maybe do not belong to any association) to be handed to ABSA in bulk. AllProDC have said that should ABSA fail to meet their deadline (to be announced) and resolve the complaints, they will escalate matters to NDMA and NCR for further investigation. ABSA have urged Debt Counsellors to use their established communication entry points and complaints process since they feel these will afford the speedy resolution of issues. ABSA entry points details: Email: firstname.lastname@example.org Should there be no response from these then matters can be escalated to the Service Fulfillment Manager email box: Debtreviewmanager@absa.co.za The meeting was described by AllProDC as “ground breaking” and “a triumph for the debt counselling industry”. ABSA say they value the role played by Debt Counsellors and would like to maintain a positive working relationship with all key industry role players.
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