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The GOSSIP Number 226 – December 2010

Merry Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year Urgent and important reminder!! Please get your bookings in for the Winter Meet ASAP!! – details and form with last issue – the reservations at the Hall will be lost if we don’t confirm very soon!

Trying to keep things seasonal, here’s a pic of a sailing-canoe icebreaking on a lake in Germany (I think!) – it’s a Japanese canoe, though! See the video by putting ‘AQU@MUSE als Eisbrecher’ into Youtube.

Canoes of Ninigo, Papua New Guinea Ninigo, off the north coast of Papua New Guinea, was the only place we saw working canoes in the Pacific. The atoll is about 10 miles across with about 20 small islands and a population of around 700. We had some difficulty first finding the entrance pass and then making our way to the main village; because our charting showed many of the islands and reefs out of position. On both occasions locals came over in their sailing canoes and guided us where to go while we towed their canoes behind us. The people were fantastically friendly, plying us with fresh produce and welcoming us to their homes. Most of the houses were on three islands and they would use the canoes to go to their 'gardens' on the other islands and to go spear fishing. We saw a few boats with outboards but as there were almost no cash crops on the islands and very little trade it was obviously difficult for them to buy fuel, so luckily for us sail was the main means of power. Mostly the canoes would have 2-3 young guys on board but sometimes there would be whole families with piles of vegetables on their way from island to island.

Dug out paddling canoe from a different island The canoes themselves were all traditional construction, no nails or metal of any sort. The keel plank was carved out of one log, with an asymmetric cross-section curve on the bottom for performance. Onto this were fastened several planks, carvel joined, up each side. Ends (bow and stern were the same) sloped up with a vertical to a vertical transom. From the side view the keel line had a flat middle section, with a straight section up to each end; and in cross section asymmetric. Ends were decked with a spray dodger and fitted with a central deck for goods. The outrigger was a heavy log, shaped at the ends and lashed with vertical struts to the cross beams. All the plank joins were made with a special heavy wood they used for dowels, fitted through top and bottom plank. The dowel was then locked in place to each plank with a small wooden pin. All the holes were made by hand drill. Construction was quite heavy, the planks 8m Sailing canoe were around 1.5cm thick and all the decking etc. was equally solid. They hand cut the planks using a chainsaw and finishing off with a hand plane, however they had a shortage of keel planks as there were no suitable trees on the islands so the canoe builders Dug out –- some some didn't would have to wait for a suitable driftwood log to didn't have outriggers have outriggers turn up. Rigging the mast


The mast was mounted at deck level in the forward of two slots in the deck, leaning forwards at 20 degrees or so. It was supported by a short strut (lashed to the mast) and by two/three rope stays. Sails were rectangular with yards top and bottom, and generally made from tarpaulin reinforced with string along the edges. The sails were raised with a halyard through a pulley at the top of the mast and with the bottom end of the lower spar set to the deck at the foot of the mast. What was interesting was the upper ends of both the spars had sheets running to the outrigger/main hull so that they would not 'fall off' in the wind. These would be adjusted according to what angle to the wind you were sailing however keeping the canoe upright was all done by 8m Sailing canoe the crew moving out to the outrigger as required. There were no daggerboards or similar, the canoes sat quite low in the water so with their fine section there was good lateral resistance. Steering was by the captain sitting in the stern and prying off the downwind side of the hull with a heavy paddle. The guy that took us out had impressive forearm muscles so I guess it took quite a lot of force. Although the centre of effort of the sail was forward of the centre of the canoe he was always prying off the leeward side so it seems the drag of the outrigger gave weather helm. They usually had 2-3 sails for different light/moderate/strong winds. Generally the canoes were 15cm wide at the keel, 40cm at deck level and around 60cm deep. This seemed to apply no matter what size they were; the bigger ones were just longer. We saw some one man canoes (around 5m) but 7-8m for 2-3 people was more popular and there were a few at 9-12m. I don't think they worked too well with one crew as with steering from the stern by paddle there was no-one to get out on the outrigger to balance the sails. The larger Sailing downwind ones just had an extra masts/sail of the same design rather than anything different. On board they were very smooth under sail – almost no motion of the hull as it sliced through the water, no doubt its heavy weight reduced any tendency to pitch. In 15 kts of wind I think we were making about 8-10 kts and that was with no-one out on the outrigger, so she was clearly capable of going a lot faster. We did very little of flying a hull, think he was a bit nervous as even his regular crew was not that skilled, but you could see it made quite a difference and that would be the racing style. They had had an American researcher over a few years ago and he measured 18 kts for the smaller ones and 26 kts for a 12m canoe! The main drawbacks seemed to be the length of time to tack (remounting the mast each time) and I’m not sure how good an Note the two holes for the mast, and angle they could make to windward. It two sails for different wind strengths would certainly be interesting to make a 3

Steering paddle and poles for shallow water

Steering paddle on downwind side


modern version in lighter materials and see how it went; it would probably need to be at least 2-man and have a fairly large sail to take advantage of the layout. I think the main issues with making a modern version of Proas like these are how to organise the rig for easy of tacking, and if possible to come up with a dual steering system better than a paddle.

Flying a hull

Raising the sail

This guy helped guide us through the pass Tyrone Currie s/v Gillaroo, Tyrone is an OCSG member currently on a world tour in his self built trimaran 9m family canoe


Recent email correspondence with Novice Sailor seeks guidance Hi all. Have lightweight open canoe 14ft L by 2ft 6ins B to adapt for sailing. Have cobbled together a usable leeboard setup & a small 18sq ft sail- had lots of fun & explored my limitations! Looking for good used kit, low aspect lugsail(30sq ft?) or Expedition Sail rig. Ideas/suppliers of chandlery for rudder production (pintails/gudgeon stuff) also friendly woodyards for suitable materials. Have moderate woodworking skills & lots of enthusiasm. Would like to be a sailor when I grow up. Ideas? Useful websites? Words of wisdom? Look for me on the water in 2011. Many thanks, Tony Kav. Tony Kavanagh - 5,Rose Lane,Cockermouth, Cumbria. CA13 9DT 01900 821162.. Mobile 07814324066 To: Subject: about canoe sailing Hello I like your site, it’s very full. After 30 years paddling kayaks and canoes, I have started canoe sailing 4 years ago knowing nothing about sailing. Listening advices, reading books and making experiences I manage well now (my videos in Dailymotion user “titirucker”). This year (in France) I met a group (in spite informal) like yours from the Network. We have begun to exchange some news about odd jobs and at the end we met twice in 2010, once in “Corrèze” lake Neuvic (centre of France) and once in “Languedoc” lake Salagou We have planned to meet again next year choosing lakes in different parts of France in order to be in touch with new people. If some of your membersship have some project in France in 2011, I will send our planning which is not ready yet, they will be welcome. Best regards, Marcel Rangier PS I give you also two friendly websites who will put your address site on his. And Dear Marcel Thank you so much for your email and your kind words about our website. Merci beaucoup! We are just about to have a brand new website, but with much of the best content from the present one still included, so I hope you have another look in a week or two and like it even more! It is very interesting to hear about your canoe sailing with others last summer. I will tell our members about it and some might even come and join you sometime. 5

My wife and I spent a few weeks of August 2009 in France including a week at the Golfe du Morbihan where we explored much of the area in our sailing canoe. We also paddled a few rivers in the Massif Centrale, including part of the Lot. Unfortunately it is unlikely that we will be taking a holiday in France next year but may do so in the future – we must keep in touch with you and try to meet! Fair winds and Joyeux Noël, Keith Morris – Commodore, Open Canoe Sailing Group Dear Keith I am sending for your information some news about our group of people and ours projects. We have two kinds of activities: - - Paddling, going down rivers in kayaks or canoes. - - Sailing on lakes or sea with kayaks and canoes sailing. On July 2009, 3 of us (Guy, Claude and myself) we were aware of a young man (Michel) which will going down the river Loire from the Massif central to the Atlantic sea (about 950 km in a month). We have decided to join him for a part of the trip between Decize and Blois (about 300 km during a week). A board of this part in attached file. So the first nucleus was born. This year at the end of June, we were going down the river Dordogne between Argentat and Limeuil (about 150 km during a short week) with 4 people more. A board in attached file. For 2011 we intend to go down others rivers as l’Allier (Massif Central), la Loire from Tours to the sea. A board in attached file. La Leyre near Bordeaux and Arcachon. About sailing we have begun to exchange advices about odd-jobs through the network, under the initiative of a couple of people; Patricia and Philippe Maingy. I have given you their link site last time . Then we have decided to meet altogether on April 2010 in Neuvic’s lake Massif Central. It has been so friendly that we have settled a second meeting on August Salagou’s lake (70 km North Montpellier where I am living). We have gathered about 10 boats. For 2011 we have several choices among St Croix’s lake (Alpes de Hautes Provence), Vassivière’s lake (Massif central) and some in the South of Bordeaux as Hourtin or Lacanau. We have not yet chosen. What we know, it will be around Easter. For the moment I wish you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year with fair winds Marcel Ranvier So there you have it – some connections in France. We knew there must be some similar eccentrics over there somewhere! If anyone would like the ‘boards’ of the trips I can forward the email attachments that Marcel sent. A couple of pics lifted from the videos on the next page – note the sunny Tshirt-and-shorts weather: 6

Ask not what your club can do for you . . . .An appeal by the Chairman It is likely that there will be a few vacancies in the committee and also there is the ongoing task of producing the Gossip. Editing the Gossip is not too onerous, provided there is enough copy, so please send in articles and any interesting snippets you come across. The intention is that none of our current rota of editors should have to edit more than two issues a year, but the system seems to have got out of sync and we would welcome some more volunteers to spread the load a bit more equally. The duties of a committee member are really minimal, unless you volunteer to undertake some specific activity, so why not stand? Please let me know before the Winter Meet if you are willing to take on one of these roles so that we can avoid the embarrassing spectacle of members being cajoled into standing during the AGM. Jeff Broome

Notice of AGM The Annual General Meeting of the Open Canoe Sailing Group will be held: Date:

Saturday 22nd January 2011


YHA Hartington Hall, Hall Bank, Hartington, Near Buxton, Derbyshire SK17 0AT



In accordance with the Constitution the Agenda is issued herewith and will also be placed on the OCSG website at least two weeks before the meeting. OCSG - Annual General Meeting - Hartington Hall YHA Saturday 22nd January 2011 at 16:30 Agenda 1. Welcome and opening remarks, Jeff Broome, Chair 2. Attendance and apologies 3. Minutes of previous AGM 7

4. Matters arising 5. Treasurer's Report 6. Membership Secretary's Report 7. Membership fees, including methods of payment 8. Group website update and new content 9. Local and national meets 10. Gossip editorship 11. Election of Officers and Committee 12. Date and venue of next AGM Winter Meet 22nd – 23rd January 2011 -Draft Programme Saturday Morning free for walking cycling etc. Activities during the afternoon will take place at the Youth Hostel and during the evening will take place at the Charles Cotton Hotel, Hartington 14:00 Any requests for discussing burning issues?? 16:30 AGM 18:30 Drinks 19:30 Dinner 21:30 Slide show? Sunday 14th 10:00 2010 Calendar and Committee feedback 12:30 End of organised stuff Don’t forget there is some excellent walking in the area so bring suitable clothing and footwear etc. There will be a photo competition for the Bernard O’Connor Memorial Trophy – so bring your favourite shot (printed at 7”x5”ish will do fine) for consideration. We usually have a raffle so bring something to put in and be ready to buy tickets! Although we have not sorted out our programme of events for 2011 it is perhaps worth mentioning a couple of dates that are likely to figure: • The first meet of the season is highly likely to be Rutland Water on April 15th – 17th – we have the campsite booked. • If you like racing Ullswater’s Birkett Trophy weekend is likely to be July 2nd + 3rd. • The customary Ullswater meet is likely to be July 8th – 10th. We anticipate that the new Website will go live in the next few days, certainly before Christmas. So please have a look while you're digesting all that turkey and let us know what you think. If you saved it as a favourite/bookmark that is anything other than you may find it takes you to the old site, which will stay live for a time, while people find their way to the new one – there will be notification about the new site on the old one. Dave S and Keith THE GOSSIP, the newsletter of the Open Canoe Sailing Group is produced for its members on behalf of the committee by a rota of volunteers. Contributions or letters for publication should be sent to either of the following contact addresses. They will then be passed on to the relevant acting editor: or Dave Seddon, 94 Dunnocksfold Road, Alsager, Stoke on Trent, ST7 2TW

The Editor this month was Keith Morris 8

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OCSG Gossip 226 Dec 2010  

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