Audio 57 interview par
Bombing Science: How
are you doing
can of caterpillars. along with many other writers to this day. as for the more popular guys we all tend to
Audio 57: I’m
well. thank you. maybe i should have takin
know now, such as
RIME, POSE, VIZIE, EYE, ELK and NACE, they’ve all either lived here or and paid their respects.
this opportunity to say something witty or funny but ill
our fallen brother
pass. how are you feeling?
as for the scene at the moment, its a toys world and im
do you hail from?
just watching them all come and go. some of these kids
Audio 57: I was borned in and growed mo. the heartbeat of this mutha. BSCI: Whatís
up in kansas city,
put in work and have been for a few years but
any better. its bitter sweet for a guy like me.
the scene like there?
i love to see new shit but shit is exactly what it is. basically, if you like freights, we got’em. thats about the only thing
Audio 57: Id
have to say in all honesty, its shit! its
definitely had its ups and downs throughout the past
worth doin out here.
years. many hard hitting vets have come from this city or
have come through and moved on. ive been here since the
you into writing?
were your major influences and what drove
beginning as a young buck spectator to the days of being called an «old school» writer. much historical work and
Audio 57: Well, i
events have been born here in kansas city. if youve been
last question but ill expand.
in this game for a long time you would know what kind of change
made on the graffiti world. this
innovative team has definitely left its mile marker in the vandal world and the came from this turf. those dudes were my graff dads. without them id be a whole different
guess some of this is obvious from the
A.T.T. basically raised me in this game. to be more specific, QUISP, EAST, AND KRIE. these were the k.c. ground breakers. they hatched the egg that gave birth to any little shit-head, black book, backpack wearing writer that came up back in the day. other than those fellas, when i was a kid id owe alot of my drive
COPE2, GIANT, TWIST, FELON, DREAM, & BLESAWR. i think the next generation i was catching onto was LOOMIT, SWET, DARE, BATES, TOAST & DAIM...who could disagree with that one. he changed everything for everyone in those days. i remember thinking ÂŤFUCK THIS GUY! GOD DAMMET!!Âť HEAVY METAL crew from Minnesota really started to impress me too. they were held responsible for making me fall in love with freights. MUCH, KAHN, MBER, SPELL, EWOK & MONK, get the fuck outta here. that gang made me fail in high school. i just couldnt think of anything else but crushing freights. thanks guys. and of corse after some more years and growing up a little more, SEVER, REVOK & SABER took the cake but my absolute favorites at that time were EWOK (in the days of his reas influence), DIEGO & ABUSE. i think still till this very day, that ABUSE was thee most original dude to hit planet earth!!! i love how he came and went too. came hard and left harder. to
in its self was my drive.
do you draw your inspiration from?
Audio 57: These
days, a fart in the wind could inspire
my next body of work. on the real, mother nature and catastrophic events really fuel my fire. all in all, there isnt much that doesnt pluck a string with me. seriously, a spiral in my dogs butt hair pattern makes me say hhmmmmm. i just absorb everything that surrounds me and at times its even a curse. one idea after another can drive a man mad at times. sometimes i need to hit the reset button on my life or i just lose it mentally. sweet huh?
there any artists outside writing/tagging that
you admire or look up to?
Audio 57: Oh
man. this is seriously a bad question. i have
to honest here. i dont really find much graffiti to blow thats the only way to do it in my eyes. so there you have it.
my mind anymore like it did when i was younger and a
in those days, graffiti dudes inspired my graffiti and that
little more wet behind the ears. it really kinda bums me out.
i will say, and im sure most would agree..ROIDS took a
humungous shit on the way things were cruising along.
travis millard is another bloke doin good on earth. its
dude is on fire and i think its great but already everyone
pretty fun to look at. im pretty sure you can peep him at
is starting to morph into his style of things. its like when
fudgefactory.com. goodies all day. shit, throw a
after patrick rocha and collect one free mental skeet fest.
took over and everyone became him. thank god
he created something new that is unmistakably his. this is exactly what bums me out about graffiti and im guilty of
it myself. inspiration can be poisonous at times. graffiti
youĂre trying to convey?
is your overall message? Is there something
becomes a consistent hum intel someone comes along to the frequency. new is nice but new only becomes old so i
Audio 57: I
find other influential outlets. fine art is a big one to me.
a meth junky what their overall goal is. my goal
i can only advise others to be involved with art not just
fact, that of a junkies. im just chasing that high. really, i
creating the sameâ€™ol letter combo over and over again.
cant explain why i must do what i do, i just fuckin do it
(not to say that isnt art). i think it can only help structure
and dont ask questions. im hard wired. its kinda funny. me
a letter form or even an understanding for a light source
and my boy
and shadowing concepts. people that get me gassed up
frequency adjuster for all graffiti writers. no one knows
i must say, would be that
but this dude is a sleeper. silent but deadly. too bad he wont
there are two of them and both are fuckin smoking. its
shake the ground for us all. its seriously sad but dude
a father/ son combo and they seriously give me a hard-
is into bigger and better things.)...were kicking it with
on.....no lie. james jean is another dude that boggles my
mind. guy does anything and everything and its all a huge
with new and different names to write.
to create is a fella named
dont really have a message. thats like asking
as we did every night and we were kidding around
always changed up our names. first off, we didnt want
i actually did twice and to only make that second time a
to be caught up with a pile of crimes. second, who gives
a shit. we didnt want to be
«famous» we just wanted to be POSE gave us shit for not taking it seriously and said «you guys will never get anywhere in you graffiti careers!!!». we just laughed and said «careers?» you gotta be fucking kidding me! «we are vandals. what career do you plan on having?». well look at him now. he has a career. a can of spray with his graffiti on it and i even used it thinking wow, good for him i guess we all have a different goal in this thing. mine is fun......mission accomplished. creative.
kinda dampened the whole process. sooooooooo.. id say from about
i started free-styling everything and of
course you win some, you lose some but i felt like i had freedom to do whatever the hell i felt like. that was great. besides it really developed my style in those days.
Audio 57: Hummmmm...thats a good question. honestly, i think thats a question i should be asking you. i dont know.
NYSE- ASH- AM7. you probably (some knew that name well, i guess.) but consider the beans spilt. i found my «style» when i was involved with that name. ever since i just approached a wall or train and started to scratch some lines up. in the end it was always a surprise. i never knew what would come of it. just recently i tried to do a couple little pre
i know im guilty of picking up some influences here and
drawn things on a freight or two but it never gets the
there. i really try not to but thats impossible. im not even
movement i like. it doest show the creative freedom that
sure if i do have anything that makes me stand out over
would normally be pretty apparent in a freestyle.
thats when i wrote didnt know that
BSCI: What writers?
makes your writing different from other
anyone else. sometime when im really in the groove and im blood thirsty for this shit, i knock out a few that im really
feeling. other times im not really in the mood but still have
block on some creative processes, and need to get their
to quench the thirst and i make some real booboo. i truly
dont know how to answer that. whats you opinion?
Audio 57: Man...i
do you develop a piece from start to finish?
lot of times artists can lose their way or get a
keeps you hungry, what keeps you
lose my hunger all the time. i have
so many damn hobbies that i stay busy with everyone just
Audio 57: Well, ive never been a big sketch. i tried that crap alot when i
believer in using a
at different times. when im burnt out on one, i move to
was younger only
the next. i actually have this ferris-wheel tattooed on my
knee to represent that. one hobby might be at the opposite
it. i could never get it exact so i felt like everyone i did was
end of my current passion but it always comes around to
wrong. not to mention, it felt like everything i did,
replace the current. i believe in breaks. and that might be
because i thought that was the way i was
because i have no choice. sometimes i wish my flame could
stay burning for one thing but my desire always bounces
be inventive and make new graff......no, this is it. i would
around. too many things in life inspire me to explore other
say your flippin tagging skills! they are like no other. too
avenues. i truly do feel like too much of one thing gets
many graffers out there that bypass the art of tag. even
boring. if you give something time to evolve while your
the one that has tags cant come with new, hot shit every
back is turned, youll always have something to renew your
time they tag. what are you interviewing for?) well, there
love for it when you turn back around. in a nut shell, i
you have it. now how could i just go and tell you that shit
need breaks. i think trying to play catch-up is motivation
with my mouth. thats my dog. this dude has come a long
in its self.
way in his «graffiti career» since ive met him. a real freight killer! thanks trede.
you do research on particular styles before
getting to work, or do you just go with the flow?
Audio 57: I
Audio 57: Ha!
wouldnt say research. its kinda like when
do you think is your greatest weakness? figures. ill leave trede out of this one. i
youre a kid and you watch a kung-fu flick in the theater,
guess if i had to come up with something, id say maybe my
all you want to do is kick some serious ass. i kinda do the
drive to write one handle. alot of people dont get that
same thing i think with graffiti. i tend to check out some
with me. it comes up alot but i find it fun to connect the
freight in some old mags of mine to give me wood. then
dots with people that dont know me completely. dont get
i bust nuts. ha ha.
me wrong, fame is cool and fun but its very damaging to ones personality.
do you think is your greatest strength? im a straight up dick as it is. very forward. owning a
Audio 57: Shit man! youre really gonna «text» my boy TREDE and shit! this is funny. he says.»thats a
bringing the heaters. im
business makes you that way. im a cut to the chase kind of
see what he says.
dude now because of it. im sure youve probably experienced
tough one. i would say
someone go sour due to the graffiti ego.
that your greatest strength as a person is your comedic personality. as a worker, youre business smart. your ability
thats the biggest bummer of it all. my personality doesnt
to run a business well.» aww.
need that. id feed off it. maybe my worst strength is hating everything that goes with graffiti. assholes, that
thats my dog. ill tell him you mean graffiti stuff. try
#2. trede for the final answer...ok. this is it word for word. «ahhhh, lol. thats funny. ahhh lets see, thats even tougher... probably your pure artistic talent. no matter what you do artistically, its gonna be great! but boring graff! (smily face inserted.) besides your can control, your ability to
wannabee approach to everything, crossing
each other out because of jealousy somewhere down the line, no respect, having to prove something to look cool or tough, taking pictures and posting them on your flickr account that consist of a collage of weed, guns, money stacks, expensive designer crap, mops and naked
many rap videos in ones life),
chrome everything! gold and engraved handles, gold
the unspoken marketing that goes into graffiti these days.
gas tank. gold driveshaft, gold and chrome hydraulic
hating all that shit is my strongest weakness!
setup, im talking
to prove something
EVERYTHING METEL= GOLD AND
ill post a pic on my flickr when its close.
as for art shows and crap, theyre a dime a dozen. im
BSCI: Do you have any advice for other writers or artists that are struggling to find their own style?
kinda tired of that shit too. same olâ€™thing. its always one giant circle jerk. other artists stroking each others egos while all the dirty little hipsters come to get popular and
Audio 57: I would say own, just stop looking
if there is a struggle finding your
socialize around the free beer keg and nibble snacks like
at graffiti. chances are youre just
they know something. i guess my biggest up and coming
QUITTING! art makes me bitter. its really a true
biting someone elses shit because your inspecting it way
event is me
to much. i bit the fuck out of
test to see if you do it for self or for someone else. in the
when i was a kid because i feasted on their
SCRYBE skills. one day and
end, im a selfer.
i went through all my sketchbooks that had their shit in it and locked them up. every magazine that had stuff of
BSCI: Thanks for taking the time to answer some questions.
theirs in it, i put stickers over it. i vowed to never look at that shit again!! then, i started some beef with them so my
only drive would to be better than my teachers. it worked.
was my favorite one yet. seriously. so many people make
with a little time and some withdrawal, i started to develop
an interview set up for a reply they wanna hear. i had
my own workings. it was the best thing ever. i think i even
some real freedom here to kinda bullshit around with you.
grew my first mustache after that.
i guess thats the difference with high brow art gallery
hey, thank you. its been fun. id have to say, this
interviews to low brow. were
BSCI: What the works? Audio 57:
sort of upcoming projects do you have in
ummm. upcoming? ive been working on an
el camino lowrider for a few years now. thats my
(unfortunately) low brow in
their eyes. they dont know shit! peace out.
project and will hopefully be done one year from this very date. i just dropped an ls1 corvette motor in it. this thing is fucking crazy! im talking painted belly, gold and
Rage 5 interview by
on a rainy night while he was taking a
break from his art…
and over again
use the same poster image over
I try and use a different technique to paste
Rage5: So yeah, no art today yet...the rain just stopped though, so I will try and head out with some posters a
kinds of paste?
Rage5: More some posters I
Rage5: Sometimes I drip times I use a stencil with from the mouth.
night wheat pasting?
like early evening
white paint at the bottom...other color paint to make shapes spew
want to use before the snow falls...
I tend to use the same kind of paste...the cheapest the better for me
sure it’s harder to get it to stick in the winter
yeah it’s the worst.
BS: Wallpaper I
try and paint freights in the
Rage5: Yeah exactly...just the powder that I mix with water
BS: You seem to have a hand in many styles, how did you get so diverse?
different street art
an example of the drips
BS: That’s Rage5: I guess I rock a bunch of different street art styles/mediums because I get bored of my artwork so quick. I get really bored if I paint the same thing twice or use the same technique too often...
great, do you use images of friends for this?
Rage5: Yeah the main one that I use is a buddy of mine. He is an actor in the independent film scene
in that picture you pasted up the picture and then
did the outline in white?
image is printed on white paper so when
it out by hand
leave a white outline and then
Here’s an (photo3) BS: I
example of my marker drawings on trains
see these skulls in your work a lot.
white house paint in a squeeze bottle and apply it once the
skulls are just fun to draw...they are mostly
poster is up.
done with just one continuous line, which is super playful to execute.
BS: I see, did you study art, or did this just become a hobby that ran wild? Rage5:
here’s an example of the color shapes
I’m not a super dark and eerie dude who thinks of death all the time...i just think a floating skeleton head is funny... hahaha
Rage5: Art stared as a hobby as a kid after high school I had no idea what I wanted to do so I studied visual arts and literally tried every medium... That’s where I was taught by some friends I made that what I have been drawing in sketch books and scrawling on walls was actually graffiti...before then I had no idea what a throw up was...I just knew that I liked writing my name in bubble letters...I had no idea there was a name
yeah, it makes it faster to write also
yeah that too
yeah, it doesn’t seem eerie, it looks like it’s playful
in texas, so we have a lot of that «dia de los muertos»
style down here
Rage5: Yeah I
love that stuff!
would you say your boredom stems from the
actual pictures you draw, mediums, or both?
keep it fresh?
always make sure
challenge myself...I try to
never paint or paste anything where it will turn out or if
know exactly how
am capable of doing it.
shows in an artist’s work when they get lazy and stop
Shit always looks fresh when you sweat your balls off doing it. That’s not meant to be a gross metaphor by the way...hahaha I think doing something you have never done before is
I haven’t done too much of that in the past so I feels a little less familiar. Although I recently started doing these (photo 4) Rage5: That
definitely makes me feel good...because it
looks way more suspicious than just pasting a poster... when you pull out a can and start spraying people automatically think
more important than doing something that no one else
just pasting a poster many people think it’s
advertising...which is why
usually do it during the day
you just throw up posters during the day?
has ever done before...you know?
Rage5: Yeah BS: Totally, I get it. So do you prefer the big pieces because they are a lot of work, or is it better to do a throwie in a spot you might get pinched? Rage5: hmmm good fucking question... I think either one of those situations has off?» element to it...
I do them at night Like why is he doing this under the cover of the night? Many of us go out during the day dressed like city workers to put up big pieces. I used to do that with my buddy VESK Like
BS: Do I
guess lately though
have been getting off on big
especially the big ones...if
it looks more illegal.
you have a bunch of people you go out with? Is
there a good community in your area?
Rage5: There are more and more wheat pasters in the area...whereas I used to only go alone and I was known as the «ART FAG» hahaha BS: Well, trend.
everyone gets criticized when they start the
Rage5: I started going out with some people that I met at UNDER PRESSURE...they started the «wheat pasting club» ...we try to go out once a week and drink Whiskey and put up posters. It’s a blast, here’s what we did recently (photo 7)
moving towards canvas/legal art?
Rage5: I have had a long lasting obsession with drawing & painting hands...so I wanted to change things up I guess. It has taken ten years for me to have my own solo art exhibit. It was an amazing experience but it’s so expensive and time consuming... BS: Hopefully Rage5: It
you made some money in the process
costs a lot to paint and draw on clean wood
and to mount them properly...
you only make money if you sell them...and all my
BS: So tell me about all the eyes in your work. Was that a phase or are you just getting warmed up? I also like the glasses at the art show, nice touch.
friends who attend the exhibit are broke ass starving
how long before you were in a gallery?
just so much cheaper for me to create work
in the streets a giant poster costs me less than
really a great part of art, is all the bartering
I just started with the eyes...I am Loving that... It’s my new thing; let me think about why I do em... you like
ended up trading tons of pieces with them which is also
to print and
of glue on each one and if
want to paint
usually fill them in with a roller and latex
find in the garbage...so
only end up using a
with the eyeball in the forehead...
few cans of spray on each piece...it’s way more immediate.
I got super lucky with my exhibit at the Emporium gallery...
I want to put her in the streets more and maybe structures around her... (photo 8)
those guys helped me install all the work and they had free
beer and snacks at the opening
pasted her on the wall behind the weird wood
structure too the right
BS: Awesome, free Rage5:
drinks and art is where it’s at
BS: I saw those shots through the wood What’s going on with the lightning?
BS: So eyes and wheatpastes are in the future, anything else to look out for?
Rage5: hahaha...I shocks...
Rage5: I started making installation pieces when I had the «PURGATORY OR SOME PLACE LIKE IT» exhibit at Emporium gallery. It was so amazing...and I Love building film sets for my friends who make films...so I plan to build
dunno...I saw it more like electric
mind reading power that can electrocute a mother
BS: Word, powerful
some weird things in the streets and in galleries in the future.
want to create characters and narratives in my work...
graffiti has so much potential for story telling but many writers don’t use it. with the character
started something interesting
created in the
Rage5: haha yeah I think the eyeballs in this series represent the metaphorical goggles that I had to put on too see through the misconceptions I had about the commercial art world... if that makes any sense. Hence the glasses in all the other photos
BS: Totally, art
from other writers
is driven by a lot of bs
Writers can sometimes be the most closed which I find completely contradictory
your message is almost challenge yourself and
school is half criticism...
fuck the critics
Rage5: True Rage5: Yup
that sums it up real nice.
are supposed to be doing what we
want where we want despite what anyone else thinks «art» is
exactly what went in to the work as much as you...so as long as you know you challenged yourself and the work
please you...fuck anyone who says otherwise
that when you see the right art in the right place just feels
in street art, there is this intangible spot,
good, it’s like a warm cup of soup, just perfect
Rage5: hahaha yeah! How can anyone say graffiti or art...
skateboarding or other trick sports, art...etc
Rage5: Yeah I totally agree... Like for instance, I wheat pasted
that is wrong...or that it’s not
a poster to a freight and
some writers thought that was fucking absurd...like only spray paint should be used on a freight... (photo
BS: So now that we have established you don’t do a lot of symbolism, it sounds like there are some stories that will be coming out of some of your work
BS: Yeah, it’s weird how even counter culture has it’s own Rage5: Yeah I
so called rules
funny because graffiti writers are supposed to
be the most free thinking artists… but
am working on some stuff...
Just gotta find the right way to make it work in the streets
get the most flack
have all winter to think about it...
do something creative
long as it’s not going to hurt
anyone)...you have the power to do it yourself right away.
what are you messages to the public, other writers,
and to all the haters?
would say thank you for inspiring me
and keep on rocking...
hmmm....I guess to the public
would say whether
you are an artist or not...don’t wait for permission to
DRIVE HOME SAFE...
haha...Hope that makes sense.
Published on Oct 27, 2010
Monthly Recap of the best graffiti pictures posted on BombingScience.com. Interviews this month with Audio 57 & Rage 5.