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families on the book tour. BMR: How do you wear the caps of author and writer? Sundeen: I can’t get enough. I don’t see them as two different things. I guess my writing has always been commercial. I don’t have an amazing imagination. I can’t just sit at my desk and make up shit. That’s why I need to go out into the world and find subjects. I know what I want to write about but I can’t just sit there and do it. I have to go out and find it. And when I do write fiction, I am always second guessing and doubting, no one is going to believe this. The things I need to happen in the story don’t seem believable, but if they have already happened in real life then I can make it work. BMR: What are you working on now? Sundeen: I want to write about Vets and PTSD. Like, tomorrow I’m going to a graduation for Vets with PTSD who have trained their own service dogs. Maybe it won’t end up being a story. But I’ll be there. In fiction, you make up the facts to make the story. In nonfiction you make up the story to fit the facts. You get these true things but you might not have the form. BMR: How do you like teaching? You are more of a writer who takes a teaching job, not the typical teacher-writer. Sundeen: I love it. I mean a book tour takes 20 days. The other 340 days, I’m not just sitting around. BMR: Do you have a daily routine? Sundeen: I did. I have. But since finishing The Unsettlers, I went to Standing Rock, I haven’t written anything for eight or nine months. Like a lot of people, I think I fell into a depression after the inauguration. Which brings me back to teaching. The world just seems so bad right now, I like the idea of being in contact with people, in some way, to influence them and make sense of things. And teaching seems a more direct way of doing that than writing a book that will come out three years from now and maybe people will read it and maybe not… BMR: And maybe it will be outdated. Hopefully he has resigned by then… Sundeen: Yeah, I doubt it.

David O’Connor pursued a career in Theatre and Film and has worked on both sides to the camera and stage. Currently he blogs at The MFA Years and reviews literary magazines for The Review Review. and is pursing an MFA in Fiction and teaching at UNM. His work has appeared in various publications including: Collective Exiles, Bohemia Journal, BlueStem, The Literary Yard, Fiction Magazine, Electric Windmill Press, The Kite Mag, Barcelona Metropolitan, The New Quarterly and The Guardian. www.davidmorganoconnor.com

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Blue Mesa Review Issue 36  
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